Oil Pan
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Oil Pan
If you were going to drill a hole in the oil pan on the 6.0 for a temp gauge probe, where on the pan would YOU drill?
As there are no GOOD places to stick a temp probe anywhere else on the 6.0, I'm gonna drill into the pan and stick a bung in there for my probe. Before I do, I just wanna see if there is a GOOD spot to do it or I just blindly drill anywhere?
As there are no GOOD places to stick a temp probe anywhere else on the 6.0, I'm gonna drill into the pan and stick a bung in there for my probe. Before I do, I just wanna see if there is a GOOD spot to do it or I just blindly drill anywhere?
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Then I guess do it anywhere on the pan that doesn't interfere with anything and won't get ripped off, just make sure its low enough to be in the oil. I'd probably try to put it on the back or side.
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No thanks....don't what to remove the body/remove engine to do that. We'll get the shavings with a magnet ok thru the drain plug AND the hole I drill.
You obviously haven't looked at what it takes to remove the pan. If it were easy, I would have done it that way to begin with!
You obviously haven't looked at what it takes to remove the pan. If it were easy, I would have done it that way to begin with!
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A suggestion. Put the temp sensor in the top of the oil filter cap? I bought a machined alum oil filter cap from ELITE Engineering. It has a tapped hole in the top. In my case I installed the oil pressure sensor. I would think the temp sensor would work OK there. IT 'may' be a little off from the actual temp in the pan but would it be close enough. ?
Cap cost about $90 way better then messing with tees and lines to connect into the stock oil pressure port sensor.
I also thought there was a plugged oil galley port in the block??
I think I would not want to drill into the oil pan. Just suppose it got knocked out ??
Cap cost about $90 way better then messing with tees and lines to connect into the stock oil pressure port sensor.
I also thought there was a plugged oil galley port in the block??
I think I would not want to drill into the oil pan. Just suppose it got knocked out ??
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I already have it mounted in the oil filter...good in warm weather...lousy in cold weather....it never gets up to temp in winter! Well, yes it does...but only after driving for hours! AND, there's the hassle of removing the proble when changing the filter. I'll post how I did it when it do it.
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My newest concern is a warning I got from someone in another site. He said that the oil temp in the pan is the lowest anywhere in the lube system!!! This is more disturbing than having the probe ripped off by hitting something. Comments anyone?
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I suspect you are correct about the valve. I have one also. There is some risk, but at least it is threaded in place vs a bung plug.
My guess you are correct about the oil temp in the pan. It has time to sit and cool off due to air flow. Sort of why I put finned oil pans on old gasser motorhome engines.
I would suspect the true actual operating temp would be in the assorted block passages and the head galleys. I will look in the DVD to see where the Ford engine oil temp sensor is located. I guess in the area under the turbo where the oil pressure sensor is located.
My guess you are correct about the oil temp in the pan. It has time to sit and cool off due to air flow. Sort of why I put finned oil pans on old gasser motorhome engines.
I would suspect the true actual operating temp would be in the assorted block passages and the head galleys. I will look in the DVD to see where the Ford engine oil temp sensor is located. I guess in the area under the turbo where the oil pressure sensor is located.
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I have physically looked there, but I found no place to actually install a probe without running into the same problem I have now with the cooling effect in cold weather. See my gallery for a photo of the probe in the top of my filter. If I remove the 1.5" pipe I have there, the probe hits and compresses the spring just inside the filter......As it is, once oil fills the pipe I assume there is no circulation of oil, hense, the cooling effect in winter.
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Bud yes I see why that does not well for you. I will look at the shop DVD to see if there is plugged port someplace... any super techs know where a good oil port is located. How do others read oil temp? You use a mechanical probe.. think an electrical one would be smaller and get inside the cap better.
I use a small electrical probe for the water temp, it is well within the casing. Accurate when compared to the odometer reading in C deg.
I use a small electrical probe for the water temp, it is well within the casing. Accurate when compared to the odometer reading in C deg.
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I did update with the electrical probe/gauge and it is still pretty long....I use the Stewart-Warner gauges with their Cameleon lighting system.
The lighting is so cool, I have no desire to change. I can have it continuously change the LED lighting to all colors or stop the rotation of color to any shade I wish. I really like it.
It's amazing, that not many others even monitor oil temp. My my mind, it is much more important than watching boost as I think the Factory boost gauge is close enough. As I do NOT have a tuner, I didn't think boost important. So, there aren't many OTHERS to throw in any comments on where to pick the connection. I would think wherever it be, that if a probe is used, it would HAVE to be a flow thru connection to get accurate temps.
The lighting is so cool, I have no desire to change. I can have it continuously change the LED lighting to all colors or stop the rotation of color to any shade I wish. I really like it.
It's amazing, that not many others even monitor oil temp. My my mind, it is much more important than watching boost as I think the Factory boost gauge is close enough. As I do NOT have a tuner, I didn't think boost important. So, there aren't many OTHERS to throw in any comments on where to pick the connection. I would think wherever it be, that if a probe is used, it would HAVE to be a flow thru connection to get accurate temps.
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psdendurance ,
Were you able to find any location on this? Maybe if I can find an oil passage I could tap into, I could fabricate my own hot oil reservoir with a bung especially for a proble and market it. Make it pump hot oil out and thru the reservoir, then back into -- say the valve cover for recovery.....Just a thought.
Were you able to find any location on this? Maybe if I can find an oil passage I could tap into, I could fabricate my own hot oil reservoir with a bung especially for a proble and market it. Make it pump hot oil out and thru the reservoir, then back into -- say the valve cover for recovery.....Just a thought.