Hi Bill,"Number Dummy" I am looking for a part # for a three goove Water Pump Pulley for a 300 six. The one I have has the narrow outer groove to drive a smog pump. I need one that has three regular sized grooves, so I can use the outside groove to drive my newly installed A/C Compressor. I posted a request on the 80 to 86 forum and a member said his 86 had a three groove pulley that drove A/C.


Thanks

Bill T.

 

FXDC, a question for you because I'm curious. What truck are you installing the AC or AC compressor in
Thanks

 

What year is the truck, what year is the engine?

How many fan belts are there now? One, two, or?

Do you have a smog pump? Do you have a dual belt alternator pulley?

There are dozens of these pulleys...some have different offsets, some have wider or narrower grooves.

You just can't stick any 'ol pulley on there...the lower pulley must line up with the A/C clutch/pulley and be the same size groove.

I need to know what the width of the A/C pulley groove is. Usually the width is 1/2"

A/C was an dealer installed option back then...so what I'll give you is what the parts catalog lists.

 

The truck in his Galleries! Check it out! Make's me Jealous every time I look Not really Bill!, You done an Awesome Job!

Hey did you get them door panel clips??

 

dearbornclassics.com has them, so does carolina-classics.com (#378586-page 62 in their catalog @ $1.60 each).

greensalescompany.com has 9 of 'em NOS: 800-543-4959

Actual Ford part number: 378586S32

 

The truck I am working on is a 1966. As far as the actual Block and head goes,it has later model casting numbers on them. It was replaced as a Long Block by the previous owner shortly before I purchased the truck. It did have all the original brackets and pulleys on it when I got it. I added the power steering pump and brackets from a 1982 model F150 with a 300 six. I also added the A/c bracket, harmonic balancer/3groove pulley. I also added a Water pump for an 82 to accomodate the additional depth of the water pump pulley. The 82 doner truck did have a smog pump that was driven off of the water pump pulley. The water pump pulley has two grooves plus the groove for the smog pump that will not be used. The alternator is still the single groove also the power steering pump is a single groove. And yes the 1/2" belt width would be correct. I know they must line up and the belt groove must be the same. If the water pulley grooves match up with the crank pulley the rest will be fine. I already have the compressor mounted and lined up to run off the outside crank pulley. As far as the alternator and the p/s pump are concerned they line as follows. Alt runs off the inside crank and water pump pulley and the p/s runs off the second groove. I know that I do not have nearly the info you probably need to pull the rabbit out of the hat. I should have had these add ons planned for at the beginning of the build instead of now, but you know how hind sight is. So whatever help you can offer will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Bill T.

 

Thanks Bill,

For the clips and the compliment. So to answer your question yes I got the clips. You saved the day. I drove the truck back and forth to work for a few days, before I started putting the A/C in. I had to come home and wash the slobber off at night. I knew it was looking pretty good, but I had no idea it would draw as much attention as it has. I was going to wait to put the A/C in but these ninety plus degree days hear with a major portion of humidity added makes A/C a priority. I know you have some serious heat in your neck of the woods as well. Much drier but still hotter than hell. I grew up in the San Joaquin Valley in California and lived their until 1978 it was pretty toasty their in the summer as I recollect. Thanks again I need to post some more pictures, I will let you know when i get it done.

Thanks

Bill T.

 

I am installing it in a 1966 F100, you can see it in my gallery if you are interested. it has progressed far beyond the last pictures but that will give you an idea.

Thanks for asking

Bill T.

 

I have visited your gallery and what a great job you have done, the truck is beautiful. I did the same as you only I didn't do the body work or paint, I had that done by a body shop in pieces 10 years ago and am just finishing the truck. Your looks Sahara Beige / White. Mine is all Sahara Beige F-250 el cheapo work truck, I call her Plain Jane. No extras. AC inquiry is because Plain Jane, my wife and I are going for a ride around the USA, a little Canada, Alaska. 11 to 13,000 miles, maybe 3 months. I want to have AC put in the truck somewhere in state of Washington or Oregon as we start going south. But I need info on a reputable shop where i can buy and have the AC components there waiting for us on an appointment basis. Been checking websites like Classic Air, Vintage Air, and others with some not good reports on some. To you and all reading I could use some guidence good and bad. Thanks, Richard

 

i need the part number for the upper front shackle bushings for a 64 f250 4x4 you had given me a number but i think they are for the spring eye bushings im not sure thanks for your help im trying to rebuild the whole front end with all new bushings if you have part numbers

 

You have a three sheeve (groove) crank pulley on there now?

Why won't it work? There's also 4 sheeve pulleys, too.

Do you know the engineering ID number it has stamped on it? Since there are dozens of these pulleys, they're usually marked.

 

You should have the parts catalog...everyone of ya'll should. Mebbe it's mind boggling to use initially, but the illustrations alone are worth the 22 buck price.

hipoparts.com sells it > >

1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog / 1964 F100/250 4WD / Illustration Section 53, page 6 shows: There are three bushings per side at the front of the front spring. One is larger than the other two and goes into the front spring eyelet.

Two smaller bushings are in the shackle bracket that mounts to the frame.

All three of these bushings, misc parts (cotter pins, nuts, grease fittings) and the shackle (not the bracket itself) were furnished in a kit:

C1TT5304H .. Shackle Kit, Front Spring-Front (one kit per side).

The bushings could be bought separately:

C1TT5344A .. Bushing-Shackle Bracket-Front (two per side).

C1TT5348A .. Bushing-Shackle Bracket-Front-to Spring (one per side).

Obsolete Ford parts dealer greensalescompany.com has all the bushings, but not the shackle kit: 800-543-4959

 

I totally agree with Bill....you remember when we went to school and there were supplies that were required for a certain class...I cant emphasize enough that the parts manual on cd or paper copies be obtained...illustrations at the very least...as Bill said everyone should have one.Its more then well worth the money....in terms of figuring out how things fit together and all...its priceless. And if you get the cd, you get the text too...and Fords part numbering system is pretty straightforward IMO.
If you have the paper books, those are great...but the cd is alot faster to look through.

- cs65

 

Yes I do have the sheeve crank pulley,however if you run the belt direct from the crank pulley to the compressor the top of the belt hits the botton of water pump pulley. The compressor sits quite high, so even if it did not hit it would be a pretty long span. If the water pump pulley had the third groove so the belt can run over the top of the water pump pulley it would be perfect as every thing else is presently mounted. The other possibility, would be to move the p/s pump outward to run off the third groove and run the a/c compressor off the second groove but the belt would rub the thermostat housing because of its size and the hieghth of the compressor. So the easiest fix is to find a three sheeve water pump pulley if there is one. I posted a thread on the 80-86 forum requesting a picture of the front of an 80 t86 with this set up to see how it is set up. i did not get a picture but person posted a description of his 86 and it sound like his was set up withe same arrangement I am trying to do. But a picture would still be very helpful. I will also look into getting the catalogs on CD. I guess I missed the threads that mentioned them. I had no idea they were so inexpensive. Once again thanks for all your help.

Bill T.

 

Hi Richard,
Iam using the kit from Classic auto air, so far so good once I get it installed I will post the results. I talked to Dwight at there Fort Worth TX. location he was very helpful and knowledgeable.

Bill T.