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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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What's even funnier, usually higher overall temperatures have been historically BETTER for humanity. More people die to cold than to heat. Cold destroys more crops than heat. The medieval period which was warmer than today (even without suburbans and excursions) was way more prosperous in terms of harvests and lower diseases...
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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i like my exursion but drivber my Suzuki to work every day to save money. then use the excursion to haul my trailer to my next camping destenation.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Fosters
The medieval period which was warmer than today (even without suburbans and excursions) was way more prosperous in terms of harvests and lower diseases...
Are you kidding? Ever hear of the black death?

Climate may have been warmer in Medieval Europe, but that's far from certain; plenty of controversy on that topic. In any case the temperature, high or low, was a minor factor in medieval quality of life.

Medieval Europe was a lousy place/time to live. Life expectancy was in the range of 40 years. The germ theory of disease was unknown and therefore sanitation was essentially non-existent. And using hand tools and occasionally oxen, without the benefit of modern seeds or fertilizer, it's hard to see how medieval farmers could possibly have achieved "more prosperous" harvests.

The net is that the quoted statement is just plain silly.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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If we eat less meat then the plant will fall to pieces. Global warming will got out of control. Remember that all these animals "off gas" or fart. Congress has spent MILLIONS studying the effect of this gas and has determined that it is a MAJOR contributor to global warming.

Yes, they did spend MILLIONS on this study. And not just once! I have petitioned congress to have a study done on my sons butt since he "off gasses" on a regular basis. So far I have not heard from them.

Maybe I'll just drive the Ex down to McDonalds and get the double 1/4 pounder. Then I will have to "off gas" myself. :-)
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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University Wisconsin Methane producing COW study it is real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by H1449-6
Are you kidding? Ever hear of the black death?

Climate may have been warmer in Medieval Europe, but that's far from certain; plenty of controversy on that topic. In any case the temperature, high or low, was a minor factor in medieval quality of life.

Medieval Europe was a lousy place/time to live. Life expectancy was in the range of 40 years. The germ theory of disease was unknown and therefore sanitation was essentially non-existent. And using hand tools and occasionally oxen, without the benefit of modern seeds or fertilizer, it's hard to see how medieval farmers could possibly have achieved "more prosperous" harvests.

The net is that the quoted statement is just plain silly.
the life expectancy of 40 years may have been bad compared to today, but compare it to the period just before that 'global warming' and you'll know what I'm talking about.

How is it hard to see medieval farmers achieving higher harvests for the time? Have you heard of the recent crops lost to frost in California last year? Is there something I'm missing here - did temperatures in the medieval era affect crops different than today?

Either way, from Al Gore's perspective, anyone who's not in their 30s yet probably isn't gonna see thier 40s, because global warming is gonna kill us all. Might as well drive an Excursion and enjoy life for the next few years

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Yes, they did spend MILLIONS on this study. And not just once! I have petitioned congress to have a study done on my sons butt since he "off gasses" on a regular basis. So far I have not heard from them.
I have a similar problem with my dog. The gasses he produces could probably be used for chemical warfare...
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tykateexcursion
i like my Exursion but drive my Suzuki to work every day to save money. then use the excursion to haul my trailer to my next camping destination.
Me too! My X is now my pleasure vehicle according to the insurance company. I use it to haul a family of 6 when we go places together (a novelty with 4 teenagers), towing my camper or four wheelers, and mostly for hauling Boy Scouts to the next adventure.

My daily driver is a Suzuki C50... 50.3 mpg is hard to beat
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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45MPG.... and that's hammering on it as much as possible!!!
 
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