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My toys
Since I'm new to the site it's taking me a while to figure everything out, but I did get around to adding some pictures of my two old toys. Check out my gallery & let me know what you old diesel truck fans think. They sure do eat a lot & seem to be an endless money pit, but they sure are fun to tinker with & show off.
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From: Nutter Fort, WV
Go down and walk across the Ford lot looking at new truck prices.
Then consider how many parts and how much fuel you can buy for what the payment and insurance bill will be every month on that new truck.
I am over 400K on my 86, and I still can't buy and drive a new one for what I spend on the old one.
And I have worked mine hard for the last 22 years.
Wonder how long a 2008 F250 would last grossing 17,000 pounds?
Then consider how many parts and how much fuel you can buy for what the payment and insurance bill will be every month on that new truck.
I am over 400K on my 86, and I still can't buy and drive a new one for what I spend on the old one.
And I have worked mine hard for the last 22 years.
Wonder how long a 2008 F250 would last grossing 17,000 pounds?
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From: Campbell River, B.C.
Theres no such thing as a turn key operation that lasts forever. You can pay $50 000 for a new truck that bottoms out in resale value by the time you pay it off, or you could buy an older truck that has already gone over the hill for a fraction of the cost and "make payments" in terms of replacement parts or in many cases upgrades. I bought my F250 for $3500 CND, and major repairs and upgrades probably pushed the current price to a little over $10 000 over the 3 years I've owned it. The power is up, the Mileage is WAAAAAAAAAY up, the reliability is better, and most important of all, I know that no matter what happens to this truck I know that I CAN FIX IT. There is no warranty that compares. And I can usually fix it for a fraction of the cost of similar problems in newer trucks.
Like Dave Sponaugle, my truck is an integral part of my livelyhood, and I can't see myself placing the same amount of trust in a newer vehicle where I cannot touch anything under the hood. Or afford to pay for the potential repairs. I feel that a late 80s 6.9 powered F250 is the closest they ever got to what a real pickup should have been. Its still not perfect, but it was a good start for me.
EDIT: Damn that red ford is a sweet truck! Do you mind if I steal that color sceme when it comes time to redo my truck?
Like Dave Sponaugle, my truck is an integral part of my livelyhood, and I can't see myself placing the same amount of trust in a newer vehicle where I cannot touch anything under the hood. Or afford to pay for the potential repairs. I feel that a late 80s 6.9 powered F250 is the closest they ever got to what a real pickup should have been. Its still not perfect, but it was a good start for me.
EDIT: Damn that red ford is a sweet truck! Do you mind if I steal that color sceme when it comes time to redo my truck?
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From: Sweet Home, OR
I don't use my vehicles for my livelyhood persay but I HAVE to get to work in them. No one else has a key and no one will be showing up to open the door anyway if I'm not there on time. I would never hear the end of the bitching if I wasn't there to unlock the shop and all my customers had to stand around wondering what happened.
My NEWEST truck is my '94 IDI turbo and it has the MOST miles on it 369K. My '91 Dodge/Cummins has the least and it's at 125K. My '91 Cherokee has 189K and my wife's '90 Suburban has 205K.
I HAVE NEVER BEEN LATE TO WORK IN 10 Years! The IDI didn't get me home one time but that's was a left-over problem from the P.O.
Well maintained older trucks and owners who know how they work and what to do to fix them are THE most reliable vehicles on the road.
And we're not paying interest on them either! Stickin' it to the MAN!
(Actually I have a '97 F-350 but it's a parts truck and has about a billion miles on it too.)
My NEWEST truck is my '94 IDI turbo and it has the MOST miles on it 369K. My '91 Dodge/Cummins has the least and it's at 125K. My '91 Cherokee has 189K and my wife's '90 Suburban has 205K.
I HAVE NEVER BEEN LATE TO WORK IN 10 Years! The IDI didn't get me home one time but that's was a left-over problem from the P.O.
Well maintained older trucks and owners who know how they work and what to do to fix them are THE most reliable vehicles on the road.
And we're not paying interest on them either! Stickin' it to the MAN!
(Actually I have a '97 F-350 but it's a parts truck and has about a billion miles on it too.)
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From: Sweet Home, OR
Hey Dave,
I saw a '70s GM truck, 4wd with a full floater 14 bolt, with about that much gravel loaded in the bed go by my shop and completely bust his rear axle in half where the axle tube/housing meets the pumpkin/differential.
He had to stop in my parking lot an unload it into a (I'm not making this up!) Dodge diesel and then get towed off on a trailer by a F-250. I don't know if the Dodge made it all the way but the guy that owned the truck said it would haul it and he was gonna show the Chevy-boy how it was done! I didn't see him on the side of the road on the way home.
I recommended they split the load, mostly on the Dodge and some on the Ford as it was towing the trailer/Chevy, Ford guy agreed but the Dodge guy was too stubborn.
Kinda reminded me of me!
I saw a '70s GM truck, 4wd with a full floater 14 bolt, with about that much gravel loaded in the bed go by my shop and completely bust his rear axle in half where the axle tube/housing meets the pumpkin/differential.
He had to stop in my parking lot an unload it into a (I'm not making this up!) Dodge diesel and then get towed off on a trailer by a F-250. I don't know if the Dodge made it all the way but the guy that owned the truck said it would haul it and he was gonna show the Chevy-boy how it was done! I didn't see him on the side of the road on the way home.
I recommended they split the load, mostly on the Dodge and some on the Ford as it was towing the trailer/Chevy, Ford guy agreed but the Dodge guy was too stubborn.
Kinda reminded me of me!
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Theres no such thing as a turn key operation that lasts forever. You can pay $50 000 for a new truck that bottoms out in resale value by the time you pay it off, or you could buy an older truck that has already gone over the hill for a fraction of the cost and "make payments" in terms of replacement parts or in many cases upgrades. I bought my F250 for $3500 CND, and major repairs and upgrades probably pushed the current price to a little over $10 000 over the 3 years I've owned it. The power is up, the Mileage is WAAAAAAAAAY up, the reliability is better, and most important of all, I know that no matter what happens to this truck I know that I CAN FIX IT. There is no warranty that compares. And I can usually fix it for a fraction of the cost of similar problems in newer trucks.
Like Dave Sponaugle, my truck is an integral part of my livelyhood, and I can't see myself placing the same amount of trust in a newer vehicle where I cannot touch anything under the hood. Or afford to pay for the potential repairs. I feel that a late 80s 6.9 powered F250 is the closest they ever got to what a real pickup should have been. Its still not perfect, but it was a good start for me.
EDIT: Damn that red ford is a sweet truck! Do you mind if I steal that color sceme when it comes time to redo my truck?
Like Dave Sponaugle, my truck is an integral part of my livelyhood, and I can't see myself placing the same amount of trust in a newer vehicle where I cannot touch anything under the hood. Or afford to pay for the potential repairs. I feel that a late 80s 6.9 powered F250 is the closest they ever got to what a real pickup should have been. Its still not perfect, but it was a good start for me.
EDIT: Damn that red ford is a sweet truck! Do you mind if I steal that color sceme when it comes time to redo my truck?
DAVID85,
That is the original factory colors on the 86 red & tan truck, but the 85 green & tan truck was originally brown & tan, so I had the brown changed to green. The tan is a color from Ford but the green is not. Let me know when you get ready to paint yours & I'll be glad to share the paint code with you from the red one.
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From: Nutter Fort, WV
I can't even guess how many tons I have hauled on that truck, but I know it is in the thousands.
The only time I ever had a problem was when I installed a Lock Rite locker after I got into plowing snow.
A locker and a dump bed hauling big loads up these hills is not a good combination.
Many times pulling a hill, the rear locked and there was no turning the truck.
Turn the steering wheel any way you want, the truck went straight, even on dry pavement.
Then one day, there was this very loud BANG.
Case full of schrapnel was an understatement.
New wheel bearings, new carrier bearings, new ring and pinion, new pinion bearing and a new limited slip and I was back on the road.
I really liked the way it went with the locker, but I like being able to drive around an uphill corner with a load on even better.
The only time I ever had a problem was when I installed a Lock Rite locker after I got into plowing snow.
A locker and a dump bed hauling big loads up these hills is not a good combination.
Many times pulling a hill, the rear locked and there was no turning the truck.
Turn the steering wheel any way you want, the truck went straight, even on dry pavement.
Then one day, there was this very loud BANG.
Case full of schrapnel was an understatement.
New wheel bearings, new carrier bearings, new ring and pinion, new pinion bearing and a new limited slip and I was back on the road.
I really liked the way it went with the locker, but I like being able to drive around an uphill corner with a load on even better.
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From: Fitzpatrick Alabama
I have an 88 that looks close to rhat good, but it looked that good beside the road too. I never haul anything too awful big with my truck, but occasionally a few times. I used to depend on mine to get me back and forth where I need to go. After being beside the road way too many times, I bought a 97 that is a little more reliable, at least until I can pull my motor apart and completely go through it. I had a million fuel systems problems that I finally worked through and now I'm going to overhaul the engine so it will pull something, my new Powerstroke will pull my 80 horse John Deere better than the old 88 model would pull it self up a hill. But when I get through with it the old IDI will be better. It had terribly low compression.
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From: Sweet Home, OR
Catfish,
Here's my Ford ignorance coming through ..but.. didn't the '86 ext. cabs have the "divider" on the rear window? Are they removeable? If so I'd take it off, I like them better with out it.
Here's my Ford ignorance coming through ..but.. didn't the '86 ext. cabs have the "divider" on the rear window? Are they removeable? If so I'd take it off, I like them better with out it.
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From: Campbell River, B.C.
The ex cab side windows are glued in like the wind shield and then the die cast pot metal trim is held in with sheet metal nuts that bolt through the cab structure . In theory you could remove the OEM glass and metal cap trip and replace them with the glass from a 1992-1996 truck. The interior plastic panel will still have the devider though.
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From: KY
Hey Dodge. Like David said. One thing is though is that those trim pieces can be hard to find. After market prices will scare you.
Thinking back there weren't very many extended cabs from those years. They are out there but it wasn't the norm like it is today where extended cabs seem to be the norm.
Thinking back there weren't very many extended cabs from those years. They are out there but it wasn't the norm like it is today where extended cabs seem to be the norm.
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From: Sweet Home, OR
My Dad bought a ClubCab Dodge brand new in '75 when I was 2-years old. We had it until I was 18 and I still remember when it was fairly new it was quite interesting to people as it was the only one in town for a while. They'd stop you in parking lots etc. to check out the non-standard truck. They were only 2-years old then and quite the spectacle for some people.
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