1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Early Eighties Bullnose Ford Truck

1986 F250 Alternator

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 06-28-2008, 01:20 PM
TWULFF44's Avatar
TWULFF44
TWULFF44 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Exclamation 1986 F250 Alternator

I have a 1986 F250 with a 5.0 302 which I recently restored two years ago. The truck was sitting for about a week. Drove it and ended up having an alternator fire. I have been wanting to upgrade the alternator anyway because of a stereo system. Being that the harness going into the alternator was ruined, and I have to change it, Can anyone recomend a bigger alternator and will the bigger alternator need a completly different harness? Thanks in advance
 
  #2  
Old 06-28-2008, 02:58 PM
uncle.stosh's Avatar
uncle.stosh
uncle.stosh is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Out of here
Posts: 2,658
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Now is the time for a 3G swap.

Search and you will see.
 
  #3  
Old 06-29-2008, 11:42 AM
TWULFF44's Avatar
TWULFF44
TWULFF44 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A 3G swap? not familiar with the terminology.
 
  #4  
Old 06-29-2008, 12:19 PM
TWULFF44's Avatar
TWULFF44
TWULFF44 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just finished searching the 3G. Thanks for the advice sounds like what i need to do. Where wouold be the best place to get it? Will they also sell me the larger harness for it?
 
  #5  
Old 06-29-2008, 01:59 PM
Franklin2's Avatar
Franklin2
Franklin2 is offline
Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Virginia
Posts: 53,673
Likes: 0
Received 1,703 Likes on 1,377 Posts
The 3g was stock on some Ford vehicles. Do some more searching to find which car or truck had the one that is easiest to adapt, and go to the autoparts store and tell them you want the alternator for that vehicle. You will still probably have to fabricate some brackets or spacers to make it fit. You will also probably have to make your own harness, or get one from the junkyard and adapt it to your truck.

If you are not up for all that, then just do a search for "high output Ford alternator" or something like that. They make them that will bolt on, but they are not cheap.
 
  #6  
Old 06-29-2008, 03:06 PM
ri_truck_guy's Avatar
ri_truck_guy
ri_truck_guy is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Suffolk, VA USA
Posts: 2,091
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
The 3G small case unit from a 90's 302 will bot right in. You'll just need to change the pulley, which is pretty easy. Best thing to do is pick up a 3G core from a boneyard, then take it to a local rebuilder and have it built to a 200 amp unit, complete with a new rotor, stator, and voltage regulator. There shouldn't be much of a price difference than buying a 130 amp unit parts store, and you'll get much more power. Plus you'll know exactly what you've got.

As far as wiring goes, I did it using both a reworked factory harness from the 2G with both black/orange wires from the plug sliced to an ring termnial on the charging post. I also added a 4ga wire from the charging post directly to the positive battery terminal with a 150 amp inline fuse. It works like a charm, and I run an electric fan, 1000 watts of subwoofer, driving lights, and a relay headlight system on top of all the factory goodies.
 
  #7  
Old 07-24-2008, 05:46 PM
TWULFF44's Avatar
TWULFF44
TWULFF44 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Exclamation

Can anyone tell me what the stock output is for the alternator which originally came with the truck? Thinking about going with the 3G. Have seen it advertised for over 350 dollars. Am I going with too much power for the 200 amp or will I have plenty with the 130 amp? Thanks in advance
 
  #8  
Old 08-07-2008, 08:05 PM
TWULFF44's Avatar
TWULFF44
TWULFF44 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have been looking for a new harness for the alternator wiring. Does anyone have any suggestions where I can get one to fit an alternator any where from the 3g size down to the 130 amp version?
 
  #9  
Old 08-07-2008, 08:15 PM
mhg's Avatar
mhg
mhg is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: savannah,ga
Posts: 1,279
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
go here
Ford Fuel Injection
no to going with too much
it will only give you what you need
 
  #10  
Old 08-07-2008, 08:21 PM
ri_truck_guy's Avatar
ri_truck_guy
ri_truck_guy is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Suffolk, VA USA
Posts: 2,091
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
The stock 2G altenator put out either 65 or 75 amps.

If you google search 3G altenator conversion you can find some companies that will sell a wiring harnes to do the conversion, but you can do it yourself pretty darn easily for around $25. Read my earlier post...it's that simple.
 
  #11  
Old 08-07-2008, 09:51 PM
LongRider's Avatar
LongRider
LongRider is offline
Tuned
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 482
Received 23 Likes on 23 Posts
You can make a much better wiring harness than money can buy.

Something often over-looked is remote voltage sensing for the regulator.

If you run a big cable direct to the battery, you can easily overcharge the battery and rapidly shorten it's useful life; better is to have a smaller longer wire for the charging wire, in order to slow things down to a more acceptable level at the battery.


So called "one wire" alternators are also good for ruining a battery and starving everything else for voltage.

I suggest you do some research on the subject before spending big money.


Sort of a condensed version = what you want is a specific "junction", where all accessories get their power, the "battery" wire goes from this junction to the positive battery post, the "charge" wire goes from this junction to the alternator, the remote voltage sensing wire goes from this junction to the regulator--either internal or external, and the various feeds to the vehicle systems start from this junction.
 
  #12  
Old 08-07-2008, 10:57 PM
86F150302's Avatar
86F150302
86F150302 is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Jacksonville FL
Posts: 3,052
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:13 AM.