It has long been against the National Park rules to carry a gun into the park - sometimes they even ask you about them when you cross into one.

I expect that many are like me a keep a pistol in their camper when they travel - and ignore any National Park rules against it.

It is not so much I intend to shoot it, but it does give you a sense of security when there is a disturbance in some remote camp ground. After all, you can not expect the park rangers to be policemen and protect you.

Anyway, the park service is reviewing their rules on guns with the idea of making the park rules the same as the state's laws in the state where the park is located.

The idea is open for public comment - but comments must be received by Monday. I made a comment myself, and suggest anyone who feels the way I do should also comment.

You can make the comment over the Internet - this link is from another thread - and gives the NRA slant on things. But it provides a link to the correct form.

Right to carry in national parks

NRA-ILA :: Legislation

Thanks - remember if you want to be counted this has to be done by Monday!

 

Notice it says "Under current law, if you carry a loaded, operable firearm into any national park, trail or monument, you are violating federal law and may face criminal charges, even if you possess a legally issued permit to carry a concealed handgun in that state."


You can't legally carry a loaded firearm in the trunk of your car, or in a camper even if your outside a state park/etc., can you?

I thought the law was you had to have the ammo and firearm separated? I/e gun up front, bullets in the trunk?

 

Again, I do not know the laws of other states, but in CA that is the law, and handguns must be unloaded and in locked containers when not in use.

In AZ it's legal to go heeled in most places, exceptions include bars and banks (for obvious reasons!).

Several years ago, the good citizens of Tombstone repealed Virgil (not Wyatt) Earp's 1882 law that said "no guns in town."

Virgil was town marshall, not Wyatt.

 

So (if the NRA site wording was correct) if it did pass, it wouldn't make a difference here in Ca...but thinking about it, there are some "right to carry states", so it might change thing for those outside Ca., and for when we travel out of the state.

 

Look who runs the state:

Senators Boxer and Feinstein are two out and out liberals, and then there's the Attorney General, former Governor "Moonbeam" Jerry Brown.

Remember what ppl used to say about Jerry? "If it's brown, flush it!"

Ahnold is no more a Republican than Brown is. He only ran as a Republican because Cruz Bustamonte had won the CA Democratic party nomination for governor.

With this bunch, do you think there will be any change?

Not a chance.

If anything, things will get worse.

btw: Did that proposed law that states "no handguns in San Francisco" pass?

And what about the Sullivan Law in NYC that states the same thing, and has been in force since the 1880's?

Do you think that law will be repealed? Again, not a chance.

 

Handguns are the equalizer of society and have been since their were invented...Time and again the gol durn loony lefties fail to see that everywhere they're outlawed crime goes up...On the other hand the so-call 'moderate' 'conservative' or 'checked pant's republican' often goes along with these dingbats just to get a long...and that has lead to nothing but creeping incremental erosion of our freedoms.

There was no way I was going to vote for Arnold...McClintock was my man from jump street. The fact of the matter is the only thing Schwarzenkennedy did was split the Republican vote away from Tom...and we the people of this amazing state are worse off because of it. What would one think when that over grown gym rat hired Gray Davis' chief of staff...the worst clipped haired mean faced socialista on the payroll..

Our state budget deficit is WORSE than under the Gray One...and not a peep in the lame stream media abou this that or the other thing... The chief thing they publish is how teachers are going to lose their jobs...and how bad things are everywhere...

Do I think things will change with these knuckleheads in office..I'm with you Bill...there ain't no way.

Carry properly and carry often, stay low key and mind your own busines but when the S hits the fan stand in and stand up....if God sees the truth but waits...so can I.

Other than that, I have no opinion.

TH1567
Jeepway 20 out in Big Sur snaked off around the corner...I found a spot to park the F100for the night and rolled out the hide a bed I used to take camping...the wife and I put out covers and went to sleep...after a while...we woke up to the Ranger telling us we had to move on...it was fun.

 

I don't know about the Sullivan law, but my neighbor was telling me Friday the Supreme court ruled against the SF thing.

 

The only thing I know is that I would rather be alive and have to go to court to defend my rights to be alive. Than to be dead and not be able to defend my right to carry.

 

When asked what kind of government was formed (1783~) Ben Franklin stated: "A Republic if you can keep it." Note the operative word "you", that's us..

Our friend Ben also said....I paraphrase here: "Those willing to forsake Liberty for an ounce of Security, deserve neither..."

Barry Goldwater said in 1964 at the Republican Convention: “I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”

Yes, the Supremes just struck down the Washington DC Gun Ban as Un-Constitutional and there by affirming the Second Amendment as ..., the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

This decision opens up the door for all SIMILAR laws to be challenged....

NOTE: The Supremes left intact the provisos that allowed guns to be banned from public places like schools (er um, what about Virginia Tech?), courts and so on.

th1567
Sometimes a Ford truck isn't enough...there are times when a fine woman that's willing to ride along fills the gap... I've heard tell that for some fellows (and women too) that a faithul dog helps too....but not always.