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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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WVO setups

Ran across this by accident today:

Smooth Operator - Diesel Truck Runs on Used Vegetable Oil

and the WVO tank kit for our trucks:

Greasecar Vegetable Fuel Systems

Im wondering if any of you have done this, or the thoughts on WVO possibly damaging the engine.

I have a neighbor who owns a restaurant, I could probably get all the oil I need for free without any hassle....which I will do when I get off my *** and start making biodiesel anyway....

Just wonder what all you guys think about these WVO setups.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 05:11 PM
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Go over to the biodiesel forum here: Bio-diesel, Propane and Alternative Diesel Engine Fuels - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

The consensus there is that the VegiStroke system is the best WVO setup for PSDs. Alternatively, set up a biodiesel still in the garden shed like I am and don't bother modifying the truck. Running straight WVO in the truck requires a lot of discipline.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
The consensus there is that the VegiStroke system is the best WVO setup for PSDs. Alternatively, set up a biodiesel still in the garden shed like I am and don't bother modifying the truck. Running straight WVO in the truck requires a lot of discipline.
didnt mean to post in the wrong section, just wondering if any of the 7.3 guys were doing it...

I had Empire send me his directions on the biodiesel setup so I am wanting to get that started sooner rather than later.

Just curious on the WVO side of things..
 
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 05:26 PM
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Oh I wasn't trying to imply you were posting in the wrong forum. Sorry about that.

Running WVO still requires starting up on diesel and shutting down on diesel, ****-retentive filtering of the WVO and all sorts of other shenanigans. It's not just a case of driving up to the local greasy spoon and pumping out their WVO tanks into the truck.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Oh I wasn't trying to imply you were posting in the wrong forum. Sorry about that.
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Seems both require a bit of work, but WVO definitely has more of a startup cost (about $3,000 for the tank and heaters and stuff for our trucks).

I thought I read somewhere that some guys think the unprocessed WVO can actually cause damage.? I was curious about that.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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I've been running a WVO blend for over two years now. Search my screen name here or google firemediceric and you should come across plenty of my posts about my experience
 
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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What he said^^^^ Lisa. About a year before I got my truck, I was looking into WVO for my neighbor. He had heard about the DSE additive and was curious and knew that I liked to look at forums that discuss things. I learned a lot and "knew" firemediceric when I first got here, because I had seen him a ton on the VO boards.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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I've been running a Vegistroke kit for about 3 weeks. If you are going to run WVO in a 7.3 or a 6.0 for that matter I wouldn't go with any other kit. It is totally comprehensive and fully automatic which is nice. Yes it is more expensive then other kits but I think that cost is MORE then justified.

I considered doing a Bio-D setup but I still live with my parents and they were not OK with me keeping methanol and lye around the garage. I wish they would have let me go with the Bio-D setup becuase we have 3 7.3s in the household!!!!

Saving money is nice but it does come with some drawbacks. Everybody out there considering running WVO needs to realize that it is going to be a time commitment and a pretty serious one at that. I probably spend 3 hrs a week collecting and then 12 hrs filtering every 2 weeks. For some of you this time commitment might not be that great but I usually spend ALOT of time at work. So, now most of my free time is devoted to collecting and filtering WVO.

Here is the other big thing to worry/think about. WVO is becoming a VERY hot commodity. I've been reading stories about WVO being stollen from grease barrels for the past year. However as soon as prices went over 4.00 I noticed many more of these stories showing up. If you live in a place where the population density is low (low pop density=less restaurants) or where the commercial Bio-D companies have everybody locked into contracts then running WVO might not be the best idea. I live in Jersey where restaurants still have to pay to get grease removed. So they are delighted that I'll pick it up for free. However, I've heard some stories that start up Bio-D companies in New York City are starting to PAY for grease!!!!

I'm very worried that my sources of grease will run out or start asking for money before my system pays for itself.

With all that being said if diesel comes back down to 2.17, like it was in Jan 07...I save all my reciepts, I think there will be waaaaaayy less competition for all that grease out there. Only time will tell.

Please don't take what I've said above as trying to discourage you from running WVO. I'm just sharing what I've seen and been through. If you have a good grease source and it's guarenteed then I say go for it.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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When I was looking into it, this is the forum that I got a lot of info from.

Biodiesel & SVO Forums - Powered by eve community
 
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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Guys and gals, i ran across this in a local penny saver paper in PA.{ BIO DIESEL 1 40 gal. round bottom stainless tank, 1 55 gal. stainless tank, 2 110 gal. cone-bottom plastis tanks with stands, paid $700.00 will tak $500.00 for all. PM me if any of you are interested and i'll give you the no#..
 
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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How did you accidentally run across that Lisa? As Leanord & Andre pointed out, WVO takes a large time commitment and you have to be **** when running it. But folks like firemediceric (Eric I'm guessing) can tell you the WVO won't hurt your truck unless you do something wrong.

Bad fuel will hurt any engine. That includes bad #2 diesel.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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bio is definitely the way to go. you can burn it without conversion. otherwise, you will need to convert every vehicle you wish to burn WVO in. and it will take a lot of dedication to filter and dewater all of it properly not to mention storage (especially for those that live in colder climates).

you can setup a really sophisticated bio-d processor for the cost of one conversion system, but if you are going to do it, the Vegistroke system would be the one to get.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by HKusp
When I was looking into it, this is the forum that I got a lot of info from.

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Good information there. While checking it out, spend some time in the Solvent Thinning Section
 
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What mixture of filtered WVO can be just mixed right into the tank, nothing else done? Even possible?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin_it7.3
What mixture of filtered WVO can be just mixed right into the tank, nothing else done? Even possible?

not recommended at all.
 
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