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Jun 11, 2008 | 10:10 PM

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awsome site bro.....works!!!!!

looks like i got lots of testing for this weekend woohoo.....

love yall........and love the site !

I'll keep yall posted about what happened this weekend

Jun 12, 2008 | 05:35 AM

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YW. That should wear out the battery in your multimeter.

Jul 2, 2008 | 09:51 AM

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Good morning FAMILY -TEAM -!!!!!

I want to thank yall tonz for the big help you've given me. Turned out to be bad starter motor!!!!! i finally got the EXPY firing up! now issues i got are: a lot of miss on the engine...............which i had before...........i recall a previous muffler shop told me i must change my cat converters as they were both bad.....could this be part of the issue? truck wasnt misssing untill i took it for a long drive one day and had the cats rewelded..........or could i have a crank sensor position sensor bad (friend told me)??

i am going to run a scan with a computer bud let me borrow (4000 bucks worth computer lol shops use-i hope is accurate!) then i am going to reply to yall with the codes etc.........

In the meantime if yall got any suggestions, i'd really appriciate all.

Thanks to you all, looks like we are finally getting this baby back up running......sorry i've taken a bit to answer back.....been saving up money to buy parts.....

Jul 2, 2008 | 08:49 PM

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UPDATE------I INSTALLED THE TOOL.....did a scan for codes guys and i am getting P1000 code..........

Any ideas wut code means? i searched on forums and different peeps say different things.......i appricate all ur help...

Jul 2, 2008 | 09:33 PM

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If you had recently disconnected the battery or cleared any codes, this P1000 code will be set and remain until the computer's monitors clear, along with a predetermined amount of time having passed.

Jul 5, 2008 | 06:08 PM

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hi alloro just to confirm....i cleared the p1000 code to procceed and do scan tests on veh and came back on later on....while test was done i also obtained a bunch of codes.....

like temperature regulator etc......could all of this be part of my bad catalytic converters?
Buddy of mines told me to remove em to do testing and see if system misses less because it could be part of the issues....

Thanks all for your replies i really appriciate.

Deltasoft.

Jul 5, 2008 | 07:43 PM

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I would need to know all of the codes you pulled to be able to make that determination.

Jul 6, 2008 | 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by deltasoft

Good morning FAMILY -TEAM -!!!!!

i recall a previous muffler shop told me i must change my cat converters as they were both bad.....could this be part of the issue? truck wasnt misssing untill i took it for a long drive one day and had the cats rewelded..........

Why were the cats rewelded? Did the muffler shop gut the cats or were they leaking?

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Jul 6, 2008 | 04:17 PM

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Cats were rewelded as there were leaks.....now i cut them again to check if my issue are the cats and i must say i noticed some imporvement in the iddle.......

now the codes obtained are less and are: p1000 and p1780...

your help is much appricated all............now i also thought of changing the spark plus and checking the coil packs to see if they are good.......

any suggestions how to remove those coil packs?.....neverhave......

thanks!

Jul 7, 2008 | 10:48 AM

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I think codes in the 1700 range are transmission. Have no idea on the specific code.

Jul 7, 2008 | 01:01 PM

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anyone else has an idea?

Jul 7, 2008 | 01:16 PM

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The DTC P1000 is Ford's way of letting you know that all the OBD-II monitors have not yet run.

When you run the KOER self test you need to cycle the TCS (Transmission Control Switch - aka OD switch in the end of the gear shift lever.) If not cycled, DTC P1780 is set. (So either you forgot to cycle the TCS, or you cycled it and its not working.)

Jul 7, 2008 | 01:22 PM

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thanks pdq......

You mean the overdrive button at end of bar correct?

if so yes i did not cycle as it didnt told me to somehow..........

Sigh if that's wut u mean it eliminates one hassle out of me and if i get no codes later......

should i just change my spark plugs and check for bad COPS? Truck still missing....

Thanks a bunch!

Jul 10, 2008 | 09:40 AM

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Good morning All,

LOL my post is like an ALL DATA manual full with great info, thanks a bunch guys!

Here's what happened recently:

i cut the muffler right before the cat converters on each side. The missing has gotten a bit better however is still missing..........

I scan now and i get only p1000, yes you were all right p1780 was coming out because of me..i wasnt pressing the overdrive button...heck i learned from my mistake.

Anyhow this p1000 code keeps coming out and is not allowing me to procceed in computer with my diagnostics to scan for codes. I do have the check engine light on...........

Any way to get rid of it? I clear it and it doesnt go away.

Thanks let me know your opinions.....

Jul 10, 2008 | 10:37 AM

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RE: something i found that might help.....correct me if i am wrong pls...

HERE"S SOMETHING I FOUND....

Ford Motor Company Driving Cycle

Description of OBDII Drive Cycle
The following procedure is designed to execute and complete the OBDII monitors and to clear the Ford P1000, I/M readiness code. To complete a specific monitor for repair verification, follow steps 1 through 4, then continue with the step described by the appropriate monitor found under the "OBDII Monitor Exercised" column. When the ambient air temperature is outside 4.4 to 37.8°C (40 to 100° F), or the altitude is above 2438 meters (8000 feet), the EVAP monitor will not run. If the P1000 code must be cleared in these conditions, the PCM must detect them once (twice on some applications) before the EVAP monitor can be "bypassed" and the P1000 cleared. The Evap "bypassing" procedure is described in the following drive cycle.
The OBDII Drive Cycle will be performed using a scan tool. Consult the instruction manual for each described function. NOTE: A detailed description of a Powertrain Control Module (PCM) Reset is found in this section, refer to the table of contents.

Drive Cycle Recommendations:

Most OBDII monitors will complete more readily using a "steady foot" driving style during cruise or acceleration modes. Operating the throttle in a "smooth" fashion will minimize the time required for monitor completion.
Fuel tank level should be between 1/2 and 3/4 fill with 3/4 fill being the most desirable.
The Evaporative Monitor can only operate during the first 30 minutes of engine operation. When executing the procedure for this monitor, stay in part throttle mode and drive in a smooth fashion to minimize "fuel slosh".

WARNING
STRICT OBSERVANCE OF POSTED SPEED LIMITS AND ATTENTION TO DRIVING CONDITIONS ARE MANDATORY WHEN PROCEEDING THROUGH THE FOLLOWING DRIVE CYCLES.
For best results, follow each of the following steps as accurately as possible:

<CENTER><TABLE cellSpacing=20 cellPadding=2 width="80%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=bottom align=middle width="15%">OBDII Monitor
Exercised</TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=middle width="60%">Drive Cycle Procedure
</TD><TD vAlign=bottom align=middle width="25%">Purpose of
Drive Cycle Procedure</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="15%">Drive Cycle
Preparation</TD><TD vAlign=top width="60%">1. Install scan tool. Turn key on with the engine off. Cycle key off, then on. Select appropriate Vehicle & Engine qualifier. Clear all DTC's/ Perform a PCM Reset.</TD><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Bypasses engine soak timer. Resets OBDII Monitor status.</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="15%"></TD><TD vAlign=top width="60%">2. Begin to monitor the following PIDs: ECT, EVAPDC, FLI (if available) and TP MODE.
Start vehicle WITHOUT returning to Key Off.</TD><TD vAlign=top width="25%"></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="15%"></TD><TD vAlign=top width="60%">3. Idle vehicle for 15 seconds. Drive at 64 Km/h (40 MPH) until ECT is at least 76.7°C (170° F).</TD><TD vAlign=top width="25%"></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="15%">Prep for Monitor Entry</TD><TD vAlign=top width="60%">4. Is IAT within 4.4 to 37.8°C (40 to 100° F)? If Not, complete the following steps but, note that step 14 will be required to "bypass " the Evap monitor and clear the P1000.</TD><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Engine warm-up and provide IAT input to the PCM.</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="15%">HEGO</TD><TD vAlign=top width="60%">5. Cruise at 64 Km/h (40 MPH) for up to 4 minutes.</TD><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Executes the HEGO monitor.</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="15%">EVAP</TD><TD vAlign=top width="60%">6. Cruise at 72 to 104 Km/h (45 to 65 MPH) for 10 minutes (avoid sharp turns and hills) Note, to initiate the monitor: TP MODE should =PT, EVAPDC must be >75%, and FLI must be between 15 and 85%</TD><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Executes the EVAP Monitor (If IAT is within 4.4 to 37.8° (40 to 100°F))</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="15%">Catalyst</TD><TD vAlign=top width="60%">7. Drive in stop and go traffic conditions. Include five different constant cruise speeds, ranging from 40 to 72 Km/h (25 to 45 MPH) over a 10 minute period.</TD><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Executes the Catalyst Monitor.</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="15%">EGR</TD><TD vAlign=top width="60%">8. From a stop, accelerate to 72 Km/h (45 MPH) at 1/2 to 3/4 throttle. Repeat 3 times.</TD><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Executes the EGR Monitor.</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="15%">SEC AIR/CCM (Engine)</TD><TD vAlign=top width="60%">9. Bring the vehicle to a stop. Idle with transmission in drive (neutral for M/T) for 2 minutes.</TD><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Executes the ISC portion of the CCM.</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="15%">CCM (Trans)</TD><TD vAlign=top width="60%">10. For M/T, accelerate from 0 to 80 Km/h (o to 50 MPH), continue to step 11. For A/T, from a stop and in overdrive, moderately accelerate to 80 Km/h (50 MPH) and cruise for at least 15 seconds. Stop vehicle and repeat without overdrive to 64 Km/h (40 MPH) cruising for at least 30 seconds. While at 64 Km/h (40 MPH) , activate overdrive and accelerate to 80 Km/h (50 MPH) and cruise for at least 15 seconds. Stop for at least 20 seconds and repeat step 10 five times.</TD><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Executes the transmission portion of the CCM.</TD></TR><TR><TD width="15%">Misfire & Fuel Monitors</TD><TD width="60%">11. From a stop, accelerate to 104 Km/h (65 MPH). Decelerate at closed throttle until 64 Km/h (40 MPH) (no brakes). Repeat this 3 times.</TD><TD width="25%">Allows learning for the misfire monitor.</TD></TR><TR><TD width="15%">Readiness Check</TD><TD width="60%">12. Access the ON-Board System Readiness (OBDII monitor status) function on the scan tool. Determine whether all non-continuous monitors have completed. If not, go to step 13.</TD><TD width="25%">Determines if any monitor has not completed.</TD></TR><TR><TD width="15%">Pending Code Check and Evap Monitor "Bypass" Check</TD><TD width="60%">13. With the scan tool, check for pending codes. Conduct normal repair procedures for any pending code concern. Otherwise, rerun any incomplete monitor.
Note: if the EVAP monitor is not complete AND IAT was out of the 4.4 to 37.8° C (40 to 100° F) temperature range in step #4, or the altitude is over 2438 m. (8000 ft.), the Evap "bypass" procedure must be followed.
Proceed to step 14.</TD><TD width="25%">Determines if a pending code is preventing the clearing of P1000.</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="15%">Evap Monitor "Bypass"</TD><TD vAlign=top width="60%">14. Park vehicle for a minimum of 8 hours. Repeat steps 2 through 12. DO NOT REPEAT STEP 1.</TD><TD vAlign=top width="25%">Allow the "bypass" counter to increment to two.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></CENTER>

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