The Sunday Business edition of the Orange County, Ca Register published the following interesting numbers on diesel vs. gasoline
1. Increase in fuel costs in Orange County in the last year
Diesel $1.33/gal, Reg. Gas $0.47/gal

2.Gallons of fuel sold in Ca.
1 Billion gals ,up 4.5% vs Reg. gas 15.7 Billion gals, down 1.0%

3.Refining costs
17.5 cents for $1.00 worth of diesel vs gasoline 8 cents

4.Federal excise tax

24 cents/gal on diesel vs. 18 cents/gal on gasoline


currently a gallon of diesel costs around $ 4.50/gal, that's about 63 cents more than a gallon of regular.

 

well think about it as gas prices get higher folks slow down a little bit. but most diesel owners still HAVE to get the eggs to the grocery stores and they HAVE to get the wood to the job site diesel HAS to keep burning for america to survive!

 

Alot more things use diesel then gas and those that do use diesel have to operate more often then gas. The figures you gave are assuming that diesel and gas are on even footing and they aren't(disregarding the price per gallon of the two).

 

Diesel is easier to produce than gasoline, I wish more diesel refineries would get built so the price would come down...

 

That is just pure caca. Diesel is just a sidecut off a distillation unit and then run through a desulfurization process. The only extra cost is the desulfurization, as everything starts out going through a distillation unit (crude unit).

mogas (motor gasoline) goes through a number of downstream units, including desulfurization, and extensive blending in the end.

The writer of that article either got it backwards, or got his/her notes screwed up on what constitutes "refining costs".

-Been there, made both of them....

 

Not disagreeing with you, but even the EIA web site says that refining is a larger percentage of the overall cost of diesel. Here is a link...check the pump graphics on the right:
Gasoline and Diesel Fuel Update

 

You guys have me confused, I always thought that diesel is less refined but more in demand as heating oil up in the northern states,i dunno. I`d go have a beer and think on it awhile but I don`t have any cause all my money went to fuel,which I`m still not su,,,,,,,aw never mind


Hanklin

 

Its easier to refine, but there are fewer refineries so they jack up the price.

 

From your link to EIA (their definition of terms):

Refining Costs & Profits - the difference between the monthly average of the spot price of gasoline or diesel fuel (used as a proxy for the value of gasoline or diesel fuel as it exits the refinery) and the average price of crude oil purchased by refiners (the crude oil component).

It's far, far cheaper to actually make the stuff than gasoline. That's the actual refining "cost" IMHO. EIA's number is just delta between the crude cost and what they can sell diesel for, as I read it.

My point was how much the refinery expends in fuel, catalyst, equipment, manpower, etc. is so much more for a gallon of gas than it is for diesel, it's not even in the same ballpark.

Anyway, we need to make more, and nobody is building or adding capacity in the US right now, from what I've heard. They're planning on building capacity overseas and shipping it in -- oh that's gotta' be efficient... Grrr...

 

The biggest reason for that is the special interest groups here and what they are able to get done. Although I don't see why everyone wants to maintain status quo as far as dependent on one fuel source, no matter where it comes from. Our electrical fuel source comes from multiple sources(and in the state that I am in only .7 percent of it comes from crude) and that is really want we need to do with our transportation fuel, thus eliminating the need for more refineries.

 

Thats why I bought a 2008 V-10

 

Oh I have a good comeback for that one, but I don't want this thread to go in that direction.

 

oh, you don't mean the "ya' wanna' race?" line, or the better: "ya' wanna' race hooked up?" line...?!

The price difference between gas and diesel has to widen far more to wipe the sh_t eatin' grin I have every time I drive my truck. Done the big gasser thang, and signed up as an oil burner lover, knowing the both of 'em...

Sorry for the

But HE STARTED IT!!! Neener, neener...

 

You guys will enjoy this: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ml#post6133119

 

Hey, I didn't even think of that, but it was more along the lines you couldn't hang with the true truckers so you had to settle for the v10. Sometimes you have to pay to have the best.