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Smile Things Are Looking Up!!

Well,after restoring the 1971 F100 and having carburetor problems -it is now sporting a new carb and runs great....I also installed the external oil kit on the 56 Camper and new valve covers and gaskets -it is running again. It may be getting tooooo much oil now--haha!! I also installed a pitcock so it can be adjusted. I was tired of the ticking and now should have some piece and quiet. It is so nice to drive an old truck and be on the happy side of things. Bill
 
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Just in time for camping season... Is that a van body you bought, or are you making it from scratch? It's plenty big!
 
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Bill that is good news. How does the external oil kit work and is it only for OHV engines?
 
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The 56 is a f600 with grain bed and I installed a 18' vanbody with attic to haul parts to swap meets,etc and to camp in. It is excellent!! I have toilet,and queen bed and dresser and mirror and enough room to carry parts. The grain bed is on a trailer and stuffed full of 56 sheet metal. The ext/oil line is a way to get lubrication to the valve train and common on the yblocks. I had so much oil that new gaskets were in order. I want to camp next week and hope all goes well=and head to Niagara Falls.
May will be a big month with supernats and heading to Florida to get Frank Cowan his long anticipatated chain hoist and spend some time in the sun at the ranch. I then will head home and visit last chance56 for a load of 56 parts and then back to Ohio. I am soooo happy my carb problem is over with the 71 and it runs on 8 cylinders again.
Dual exhaust coming soon.
I had a 63 1/2 galaxie in high school and put thrush mufflers on the very end of the exhaust and it sounded awesome---so maybe do that on the 71.
BIGWIN---is the oil kit suppose to flood the valve cover with oil or just get ebnough to stop the tick? I am a happy camper and back is real bad--but truck fleet is a long way to perfect,but makes me happy.
I still want a 56 panel and the 1 in Colorado is a deal. Wife wants me to cement the drive,and maybe next yr.--haha!!----Frank we are coming at ya soon.......Bill
 
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May will be a big month with supernats
You are going? Terrific!

Queen bed...hmm...just the ticket for an ailing back.

See you there.
 
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N.D. We bad back guys can take a snooz in the queen bed if needed!! haha!! but not at the same time--haha!!! Hope to meet ya!!! Bill
 
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Bill it sounds like that ext/oil line recurculates, or rather provides additional curculation for, the engine oil. I have recently seen the old marvel mystery oilers installed on a couple restos... I am searching for someone that has used one and can say weather they work good or only look good.

I look forward to your arrival in FL. Though it sounds like you will need a vacation from the traveling. lol
 
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Thanks Frank!! I was told the ext.oli kits pose other problems down the road--like starving the bearings because oil is concentrated in valve cover area. Hope not!! I am not sure it is on correct--but oil is going into the covers.
We cruised in the 71F100 yesterday and filled her with gas. Nice to have p.s. and p.b.. I still love the 56s but nice to have a new truck--71--haha!!!!Pics coming soon. Hope to restart the 56f100 again and then do some f600 stuff on the other trucks......Bill
 
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If the valve covers are flooding I hope you have tripple A towing! Now the pan is 2-3 quarts low on oil, loss of pressure to bottom end, worn valve guides from lack of oil in the first place. All the oil up top you'll be ready for mosquito fogging soon! Looks to me like you'll need a motor soon if you run it like this. You'll get about 1,000 miles out of this set up and it will be toast! Its just a band aid.

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Old 04-28-2008, 11:52 AM
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I have another 56F600 and it has the external oiling kit on it and seems to have been on for a long time. I also remember you saying that your 56f600 had an ex. oiling kit and runs fine. Bigwin is this true? Why would mine have problems then? Bill
 
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Because its flooding the valve cover thats why. You either have it installed incorrectly or its not restricting the flow as it should. Mine is set up to give the rockers "just" enough oil to make it quiet. They need almost no oil to be happy. If you plan on putting many miles, its time to pull the head and "FIX" the original problem. My yellow truck has maybe 100 miles on it since the install and I dont plan on driving it over the road, its just a spare vehicle.

Did you pull the rocker shaft off? I'm sure the tube is full of crud. This maybe your only problem. A Y block will run on one bank, take the rocker shaft off and push tubes out and fire it up and see if the oil hole that feeds the rocker stand is getting oil, if it is then the head does not need to be pulled, just clean the rocker shaft tube inside. If no oil is present then the blockage is at the head gasket area as the oil from the block has to do a downward turn and then back up again into the head. This is where the oil carbons up and blocks the passage.

Take a 2" x 3" piece of 1/4" steel, drill two holes to match the rocker stand mount on the head. Drill a third hole to line up with the oil feed hole and install a grease fitting and pump grease thru the oil feed to the cam bearing. The grease will sometimes push the blockage or at least loosen the blockage to allow oil flow. This worked on the yellow truck, I only installed incase the blockage would reappear. I'm running a restriction to limit the flow to almost nothing.

Also where did you tap into the oil system for the overhead oiler? Did you go from the sending unit? Well thats another problem as now it pulls oil from the #5 main. A Y block has plugs at every main on the side of the block (side oiler) and if you are going to keep this set up you need to take it off the #1 main so a everything else gets oil first.

I cant believe you restored the 71 already, body off and everything? Restoring means everthing is new or better than new. You sure are fast cant wait to see the 56's

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Thanks for the heads up Kevin! I would be willing to pay you to fix the 56 oil problem. I realize you are the y-block mechanic but I am more of a paint man,and do what I can on all my vehicles. There are many types of reatorations and I did not do a frame off resto. on the 1971 F100 with 66,100 miles. RESTORATION MEANS -TO RESTORE TO BEING ROADWORTHY,AND THIS TRUCK WARRANTS ONLY WHAT i DID TO IT,--AT LEAST FOR NOW. iT WILL BE MY DAILY DRIVER,BUT BOUGHT ANOTHER AWD VAN FOR TRIPS,ETC. i AM FAIRLY FAST--SINCE i AM HOME ALOT. tHANKS Bill
 
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Sorry to bother you,Kevin. I must not have the ext.oiler on correctly. Time to get a pro.

Frank--will most likely come to your place so I can see your trucks.
N.D.--Wife says we can go,as long as she can shop. I thought,sure---at the swap meet-haha--that isn't what she mean't!!!!
Bigwin---I will take your advice on the yblock. Thanks!! I thinK YOU WOULD BE THE MAN TO FIX IT!!! Bill
 



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