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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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It's supposed to, from what I've seen, as long as the rust is in great shape, without rust underneath it (adhered well). From what I understand, if there's rust under the chrome, when the rust goes, so does the chrome. I don't think it's a "cure-all" for rusty chrome, but if the chrome is in good shape, maybe as a "last ditch" effort, maybe saving having to strip and re-chrome. Maybe somebody will pipe in with more experience, mine's just what I've read...

That being said, many of the "tutorials" talk about "spot" electrolysis - using a saturated sponge, with the current, so you can hit just the places that need it. Might be the best way to go, on chrome, I'd think.

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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AXracer
electrolosis will not remove paint, only rust.
Sorry to dispute your claim but I have removed lots of paint with it. Over on the machinist forum is where I first learned of it. It is true that it takes a while but it does work. It's a matter of enough current and time. the problem with doing large panels is having a big enough insulated tank. I have heard of people digging an appropriate size hole and using plastic to line it with. the big problem is learning how to make and place the anode plates. I recently did a 92 year old South Bend lathe and I remioved original paint in good condition. You do have to have a small poin t cleared for the electrolysis to start.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rcav8or
It's supposed to, from what I've seen, as long as the rust is in great shape, without rust underneath it (adhered well). From what I understand, if there's rust under the chrome, when the rust goes, so does the chrome. I don't think it's a "cure-all" for rusty chrome, but if the chrome is in good shape, maybe as a "last ditch" effort, maybe saving having to strip and re-chrome. Maybe somebody will pipe in with more experience, mine's just what I've read...

That being said, many of the "tutorials" talk about "spot" electrolysis - using a saturated sponge, with the current, so you can hit just the places that need it. Might be the best way to go, on chrome, I'd think.

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If everything is working right you should be able to remobe all the chrome plating if you use enough current and enough time. The same goes for the copper underplating if there is any.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dave boley
Sorry to dispute your claim but I have removed lots of paint with it.
Electrolysis removal of rust is just that, removing rust, Fe<sub>2</sub>O<sub>3 and </sub>Fe<sub>3</sub>O<sub>4. The only reason it does remove paint, is that there is Ferric Oxide (red rust), or "black rust" under the paint. As the red and black rust come loose from the iron, it stands to reason that the paint would come off with it. But, the solution nor electrolysis action, is removing the paint, per se. It's just a by product. The metal underneath will be shiny-clean though.

As for chrome, I don't think he was asking if he could remove it - just the rust pitting, etc. Again, the chrome is no where near as porous as the iron below it, so it will not go away anything near as fast as the rust, so should stay. Again, if the chrome is poor, with rust scale, etc, under it, it will come off with the rust. But, the accepted way to remove chrome is with either
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Electrolysis will not harm chrome, if the chrome is in good shape. I have tested several parts and have never had a problem. At first I was a non-believer so I tested some junk parts. Surprisingly I found the rust was removed and the chrome was left intact.
Can I remove the chrome plating from an antique weapon (a pistol)?
Probably not. The electroplating process, if done properly, will include an acid dip to remove all dirt, rust and oxidation. The item is then plated many times over. If the chrome (or brass or silver plating) is well-adhered to the base metal, electrolysis will not have any effect on it.
Does the part need to be degreased before the electrolysis process? Will electrolysis remove good paint on clean, non-rusted metal?
The part you are cleaning needs no special preparation outside of insuring a good electrical connection. Grease falls off the part and dissolves in the soapy solution in conjunction with the heat produced by electrolysis. Paint, even baked enamel, will eventually peel off the base metal in single sheets.
Again, the paint removal is merely because the metal base that it is on, is being taken off, removing any kind of adhesion of the paint, thus the "single sheets" in the last quote.


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