Off road fuel.
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Tuned
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Barbourville Ky
Off road fuel.
Has anyone here run off road fuel in their storker.I personally dont thinkl
there is a difference in the fuel other than the offroad has dye in it.
Some customers have told me their trucks wouldnt run on it while others tell me they run it all the time.
there is a difference in the fuel other than the offroad has dye in it.
Some customers have told me their trucks wouldnt run on it while others tell me they run it all the time.
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From: Stephensville WI
There have been huge debates about this subject from time to time. Some say that using off-road fuel will void your warranty, while others say they do it often and nothing has happened.
The debate is based on your understanding of this paragraph, which is cut from the 2008 diesel supplement:
Do not use home heating oil, agricultural fuel or any diesel fuel
not intended for highway use. Damage to the fuel injection
system, engine and exhaust catalyst can occur if an improper fuel
is used. Do not add gasoline, gasohol or alcohol to diesel fuel.
This practice creates a serious fire hazard and engine
performance problems.
Now, to me the first sentence says do not use fuel not intended for hiway use. The second sentence says damage may occur if you use improper fuel. But, this does not say that off-raod diesel is "improper fuel".
Lastly, off-road diesel does not have to meet the USLD requirements for a few more years, IIRC. You may get LSD instead.
The debate is based on your understanding of this paragraph, which is cut from the 2008 diesel supplement:
Do not use home heating oil, agricultural fuel or any diesel fuel
not intended for highway use. Damage to the fuel injection
system, engine and exhaust catalyst can occur if an improper fuel
is used. Do not add gasoline, gasohol or alcohol to diesel fuel.
This practice creates a serious fire hazard and engine
performance problems.
Now, to me the first sentence says do not use fuel not intended for hiway use. The second sentence says damage may occur if you use improper fuel. But, this does not say that off-raod diesel is "improper fuel".
Lastly, off-road diesel does not have to meet the USLD requirements for a few more years, IIRC. You may get LSD instead.
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From: Parker, CO
Since the whole dyed fuel/ULSD/LSD debate always continues...
Dyed diesel can be either ULSD or LSD. It "should" be labeled at the pump as to which one it is, however that is not always the case since the EPA seems more concerned about taxed highway fuel right now. There are a few places here and there where you can buy taxed highway LSD, however that is becoming extremely rare. Most LSD is currently intended to be used as offroad diesel. In 2010, all dyed diesel will be ULSD, and LSD will no longer be available except for marine and locomotive use (until 2012).
Remember, there is a difference between "offroad" diesel and "non-highway" diesel. Offroad diesel is dyed, non-highway diesel is locomotive and marine diesel, kerosene, etc.
Auto manufactures cannot void a warranty simply based on dye in the fuel. That dye is for tax purposes only and does not specifically identify LSD or ULSD (although a vast majority of dyed fuel is in fact LSD). Some people are tax exempt and qualify to use the offroad diesel in their vehicles. Say you have a 2008 PSD and you run dyed ULSD, your warranty is still intact. If you have the same 2008 and you run dyed LSD, you will not receive warranty repair if the fuel causes problems.
Moral of the story: Unless you qualify for tax exemption, don't run dyed diesel. Also, a majority of dyed diesel is LSD, but some can also be ULSD. So know exactly what you are buying, especially if you own a 2008 Superduty.
Dyed diesel can be either ULSD or LSD. It "should" be labeled at the pump as to which one it is, however that is not always the case since the EPA seems more concerned about taxed highway fuel right now. There are a few places here and there where you can buy taxed highway LSD, however that is becoming extremely rare. Most LSD is currently intended to be used as offroad diesel. In 2010, all dyed diesel will be ULSD, and LSD will no longer be available except for marine and locomotive use (until 2012).
Remember, there is a difference between "offroad" diesel and "non-highway" diesel. Offroad diesel is dyed, non-highway diesel is locomotive and marine diesel, kerosene, etc.
Auto manufactures cannot void a warranty simply based on dye in the fuel. That dye is for tax purposes only and does not specifically identify LSD or ULSD (although a vast majority of dyed fuel is in fact LSD). Some people are tax exempt and qualify to use the offroad diesel in their vehicles. Say you have a 2008 PSD and you run dyed ULSD, your warranty is still intact. If you have the same 2008 and you run dyed LSD, you will not receive warranty repair if the fuel causes problems.
Moral of the story: Unless you qualify for tax exemption, don't run dyed diesel. Also, a majority of dyed diesel is LSD, but some can also be ULSD. So know exactly what you are buying, especially if you own a 2008 Superduty.
