Well minimum wage got me again
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Well minimum wage got me again
I had a leaking heater hose so went ahead and replaced all my hoses on my truck since it is a 2000 and figured it could use it. well after getting done went and test drove the truck and found out that the water pump was seeping too. So went to Napa and all they had was a rebuilt, so even though I wanted a new one I went ahead and got the rebuilt one instead of waiting until monday. Well come home get the truck all torn down got the new pump off, swapped the thermostat housing, lower radiator hose extension, heater hose and temp sender, then put the pump in the truck. got it all bolted up lower hose on, pulley etc then realized I hadn't pulled the plug they installed where my fitting goes for the filter so put a wrench on it, and it feels really tight but starts to move then BANG it just falls out WITH THE THREADS. This is were min wage got me, figure they didn't care enough to put the plug in straight when they rebuilt the pump, cross threaded it in even though was tough and called it good. guess it's a good thing that I pulled that plug and it didn't come out while going down the road but still now have to take it all back apart to get a new pump on monday, or buy one from Orielies (anyone have an opinion on their water pumps?)
I do have another question though if your still reading. My neighbor used to work for a Ford dealer and he says that whenever they did water pumps on the powerstrokes they always used silicon on the lower hose extension and the entire oring gasket for the pump. I didn't, what has been everyone elses experience either way, do you feel a need to use RTV or have you had good luck with the orings sealing (since I have to redo it anyway, might as well find out from you guys)
I do have another question though if your still reading. My neighbor used to work for a Ford dealer and he says that whenever they did water pumps on the powerstrokes they always used silicon on the lower hose extension and the entire oring gasket for the pump. I didn't, what has been everyone elses experience either way, do you feel a need to use RTV or have you had good luck with the orings sealing (since I have to redo it anyway, might as well find out from you guys)
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I replaced my water pump about two years ago and bought a rebuilt from autozone. shhh dont tell anyone. It was before I started asking the experts here. However I went back with all the stock parts. I live in South Texas and haven't had a problem yet. but I will be watching this post just to find out what these guys say.
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I had a leaking heater hose so went ahead and replaced all my hoses on my truck since it is a 2000 and figured it could use it. well after getting done went and test drove the truck and found out that the water pump was seeping too. So went to Napa and all they had was a rebuilt, so even though I wanted a new one I went ahead and got the rebuilt one instead of waiting until monday. Well come home get the truck all torn down got the new pump off, swapped the thermostat housing, lower radiator hose extension, heater hose and temp sender, then put the pump in the truck. got it all bolted up lower hose on, pulley etc then realized I hadn't pulled the plug they installed where my fitting goes for the filter so put a wrench on it, and it feels really tight but starts to move then BANG it just falls out WITH THE THREADS. This is were min wage got me, figure they didn't care enough to put the plug in straight when they rebuilt the pump, cross threaded it in even though was tough and called it good. guess it's a good thing that I pulled that plug and it didn't come out while going down the road but still now have to take it all back apart to get a new pump on monday, or buy one from Orielies (anyone have an opinion on their water pumps?)
I do have another question though if your still reading. My neighbor used to work for a Ford dealer and he says that whenever they did water pumps on the powerstrokes they always used silicon on the lower hose extension and the entire oring gasket for the pump. I didn't, what has been everyone elses experience either way, do you feel a need to use RTV or have you had good luck with the orings sealing (since I have to redo it anyway, might as well find out from you guys)
I do have another question though if your still reading. My neighbor used to work for a Ford dealer and he says that whenever they did water pumps on the powerstrokes they always used silicon on the lower hose extension and the entire oring gasket for the pump. I didn't, what has been everyone elses experience either way, do you feel a need to use RTV or have you had good luck with the orings sealing (since I have to redo it anyway, might as well find out from you guys)
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Kwikkordead has some slick stuff he uses from Napa on all o-ring surfaces. His theory is that you dont want to use RTV to stuff the o-ring in place, rather (the name just came to me, something like syl-glide, good name for a lube LOL), excuse me, rather let the lubed up o-ring do its job and this lubricant for the o-rings does just that. I agree with his theory.
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Picture of the stuff
Kwikkordead has some slick stuff he uses from Napa on all o-ring surfaces. His theory is that you dont want to use RTV to stuff the o-ring in place, rather (the name just came to me, something like syl-glide, good name for a lube LOL), excuse me, rather let the lubed up o-ring do its job and this lubricant for the o-rings does just that. I agree with his theory.
Here is a picture of the stuff you and KWIK are talking about. I printed this out and was going to get some when I did the 203 thermostat and billet housing, but haven't gotten around to it yet.....Hope this helps you get the right stuff.....In theory it sounds like a good idea to use it....Dave
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For some reason, I thought that O'reilly's had Airtex pumps, and from what I've seen both personally on my truck and read from others, they are good pumps.
I lubed up my pump body gasket with stuff similar to what has been shown. I actually used faucet grease from the hardware store, but it's the same stuff. Silicon based lube.
My Airtex pump is a one-piece unit from the body all the way down to the lower hose extension, so there's no need to worry about leaks there. However, my stock pump leaked at that joint. Not sure why the stock pumps are a two-piece design, but I would guess the removable lower extension is to aid in removal of the oil cooler if ever necessary.
I lubed up my pump body gasket with stuff similar to what has been shown. I actually used faucet grease from the hardware store, but it's the same stuff. Silicon based lube.
My Airtex pump is a one-piece unit from the body all the way down to the lower hose extension, so there's no need to worry about leaks there. However, my stock pump leaked at that joint. Not sure why the stock pumps are a two-piece design, but I would guess the removable lower extension is to aid in removal of the oil cooler if ever necessary.
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You guys beat me to the silicone grease post, good job.
I've used that stuff for about ten years now and not one of the many fittings that I have installed has ever come back leaking.
I'm sold on it and never will put any o-ring fitting together without using it.
Especially the long formed ones that are on the back side of the water pump. Clean surfaces and a light coating on the o-ring and the flat area where the water pump bolts to will pretty much guarentee a leak free installation.
NO BLOBS!!!! Too much will create a hydraulic lock and that will cut the o-ring.
I've used that stuff for about ten years now and not one of the many fittings that I have installed has ever come back leaking.
I'm sold on it and never will put any o-ring fitting together without using it.
Especially the long formed ones that are on the back side of the water pump. Clean surfaces and a light coating on the o-ring and the flat area where the water pump bolts to will pretty much guarentee a leak free installation.
NO BLOBS!!!! Too much will create a hydraulic lock and that will cut the o-ring.
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Thanks dan that was what i did when i put it back together. I had always used just axle grease to "glue" orings in place and ever had a problem. Don't know why I never thought of using silicon grease, one of those DOH moments I guess.
Was talking to the neighbor again about it and mentioned this, when he got to laughing. like i said he worked at a Ford Dealership and the powerstroke certified guys said to use Silicon sealant. we both are now thinking they went to a class on these things and the instructor meant silicon grease and they thought sealant so told all the rest of the mechanics that was how to do it. Me I had NEVER used sealant on an oring seal and never had one leak.
BTW got another pump and all is back together and no leaks. Thanks guys
Was talking to the neighbor again about it and mentioned this, when he got to laughing. like i said he worked at a Ford Dealership and the powerstroke certified guys said to use Silicon sealant. we both are now thinking they went to a class on these things and the instructor meant silicon grease and they thought sealant so told all the rest of the mechanics that was how to do it. Me I had NEVER used sealant on an oring seal and never had one leak.
BTW got another pump and all is back together and no leaks. Thanks guys