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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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V8 swap questions!?

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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Wreckit87
Hey guys I'm going to look at a '90 2wd ext cab this weekend, has a forged piston 5.0 from a mustang GT with an AOD right now... Is $1300 too much?

Supposedly runs good and has almost zero rust.. I intend to pull and sell the 5.0 (so if anybody wants it, let me know lol) and drop in my 408. About 425-450 HP I presume. So my questins to u are: How in the heck am I supposed to get it to hook up!?
Is the AOD beefed up to handle that much V8 power? AOD's really need a good converter in them to show the motor's full potential. Besides that, does the AOD have a cooler and a shift kit? We Mustang guys like the Trans Go kits.

Getting traction with this combo inside a Ranger pickup is almost silly w/o some serious rubber on the ground and some serious rear suspension work out back. If you are going to race this thing, all I can say that it will take some technique and skill.

Let us know how the truck checks out.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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good luck

good luck with fitting that in there. i heard the 351 is hard enough and gets in the way. besides im dropping in a 302 stroked to 347 and will be pushing around 500 hp with a smaller lighter engine. i would just keep the 302 and rebuild it
 
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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well if there the same engine . actually that will be awsome then. do some research about the 351 if you havent because thats what i was gonna do but heard that its more difficult so i went with a stroked 302 to a 347 and ill just put new heads and a blower on it
 
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Old Apr 3, 2008 | 10:57 PM
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the 351 Windsor is taller and wider than a 302. there are interference problems with the steering and firewall in particular. Not that it can't or hasn't been done - it's just more involved.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 12:08 AM
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well, 5.0 is used in Explorers, so q is what tranny is in V8 Explorer?
 
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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to agree with 5.0B2 the 351 is larger and heavier. i research things like crazy before i do them (thanks college) and if i remember correctly the 351 is 1" longer and either 4" wider or 4" taller than the 302. honestly stroke a 302 and put some good pistons and heads and you'll be pushing major horsepower. i got a complete rebuild kit including my stroker kit for around $1800. thats all new gaskets, lifters, cam, forgeded dished mahle pistons, new timing chain, and the crank shaft for that much. also i dont know if you know but getting an engine stroked you have to bore it out but you also have to get the cyclinders notched out so the rods dont hit the bottom of the cylinders
 
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jeremyled
.......if i remember correctly the 351 is 1" longer and either 4" wider or 4" taller than the 302.
On the 351W the deck height is about 2-inches taller than a 302's.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Pablo- The 1996 and I think 1997 5.0 Explorer's have the 4R70W trans.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Like Mustang?
 
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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There's people on here with stoked 460's in Rangers. The only one I knew with a V8 was my neighbor. He had a 302 in his, and a big set of slicks...you still couldn't keep it hooked with a little 302 in it. Good luck with the swap, it shouldn't give you much problems.

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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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Pablo - yes except that the Explorer unit and the police Crown Victoria units have a better 1st gear ratio.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 01:40 AM
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you could use this type of traction bar as it doenst hang down so its not as noticable. there are better ones then these but this was the first pic i found of this style.

TUFF COUNTRY™ TRACTION BARS - JCWhitney Truck Parts
 
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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You need to go up to 15" rims, you will have a lot better tire selection and it will still look stock. You really need to run some sorta drag radial, a sleeper is no good if it won't move, you'll still get feed your lunch. You have to be able to get traction, or it's worthless. A high gear may help some like a 3:08, but then you give up some hard excelleration. I would worry less about the sleeper look and more about getting it to hook up. All the power in the world will do you no good if you can't get it top the ground. I would consider a 4 link, drag radials and level the truck to cast some of the weight toward the rear. 14" tires are really out of the question if you want to get the power moving. I have 18" rims with bfg G-force radials on my mustang GT and thats not enough tire to hold it to the ground with the stock motor. As I build my engine I will be running drag radials, at least at the strip, maybe even the street. When I lauch hard now, it will spin through 1st and 2nd gear, it looks impressive, but can cost me a race. I need it to hook up before I go to Pinks all out june 6th at Norwalk.
 
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