I am looking to upgrade the exhaust on my 98 f150 xlt 5.4 4x4. What i want is one that sounds good when you get into it but at idle and low speeds is quiet or as quiet as can be expected. Any suggestions.

Thanks
Dan
Miami Lakes

 

take a look at some of the 50 series flowmaster mufflers, those have good tone and rumble at idle, and then when you stomp on it you will deff get a bark, but nothing crazy if you had your mom in your vehicle going out to lunch

 

Our WickedFlow MAX BSC300 is a quiet muffler. It is also reasonably priced.

http://www.bearriverconverters.com/I...e-15384b2be05f

Our Fullblown 3051 is also a reasonably quiet muffler with a very deep smooth tone. I use this muffler on my Aerostar largely because I wanted something that would sound good, that offered performance gains, but wasn't too loud. I am very pleased with it. We do not have many of the FullBlown series mufflers added to our site yet, but you can use the contact form to inquire about price.

Both mufflers are very well made of sturdy materials, and are superior alternatives to higher priced products.

 

I haven't heard Gibson exhaust on a Ford but I have on a Chevy 5.3l. They're really quiet at idle and lower rpms but sound nice and throaty at higher rpms if that's what you're looking for.

 

yeah, the 50's might be the way to go:

http://motorhaven.autoanything.com/e...A2522A0A0.aspx

 

Ouch, that is one hefty price tag.

Try this
http://www.bearriverconverters.com/I...8-c366882b8094

I use this muffler on my own vehicle, love the sound, nice and deep, not too loud. It is not raspy at all. I was quite pleased.

 

Thats a good for a branded Flowmaster 50 HD. The 50 series SUV is almost the same in design but will be quite a bit cheaper. I havn't found a cheaper place than autoanything for many parts.

A Magnaflow or Turbo muffler will work good also.

 

So let me get this straight, it is a good deal to pay an extra $100 just to stamp a logo in the side of it? If its that important to have the name I guess.

 

Just saying that those are good prices compared to what others sell them for.

I've been watching your great marketing tactic for some time now. Knock other peoples products to sell your own. Honestly to me it shows a lack of charactor and ethics.

Your the only FTE sponsor I've seen do that. I've bought products from many FTE sponsors before but will never look at yours for that reason.

I don't buy knock-off products.

 

I wouldn't if most of the other companies didn't make it so easy. Just like Magnaflow cats. Everyone raves about them, yet when you actually compare them to what we sell, you can clearly see that the Magnaflow cat is mediocre. To me, overhyped marketing pyramids are unethical. The Flowmaster imitation we carry is about the same quality, it just lacks the brand name. But it will hold up to the same conditions just as well. Other imitations have this terrible tendency to break where the neck meets the casing, but ours are double layers to prevent that.

As far as our Wickedflow line, they are really not knock-offs of anything. The closest thing you can compare them to is a Magnaflow done right. Magnaflow left plenty of room for improvement. Ours are built stronger, with high temp fire rated fiberglass outer packing and heavier gauge stainless steel. We have been carrying the Wickedflow line of exhaust tips and mufflers for 6 years and have found through experience they are an above average product. My policy is that if I can't guarantee it, I won't sell it. What is unethical about that?

All I'm trying to do is supply the information to make an honest comparison. If a brand name is important to the consumer that is fine. But one has to realize that all too often, marketing ploys and celebrity endorsements are used to promote and average or even inferior product and make it look good. Also, the products we sell have a brand name too.

As I recall you argued against me when another member of this forum bought a cat assembly for his truck, and it didn't fit. His mechanic ordered another one from another source and had the same problem. He mentioned it here and I explained why that was that all of the companies making these part shave not done their homework and copy each others designs, and you objected. However, no amount of arguing changed the fact that the part didn't fit. He ordered the assembly from us, and surprise, it fit perfectly. We take pride in out product, and if we can't stand behind our product and our claims, we won't sell it. Its just that simple.

Now granted, I don't specialize in mufflers, I specialize in catalytic converters. But come on, you refer to my stuff as knock-offs. What does that make Bosal, and Borla, and Dynomax, and Cherrybomb? Don't they all make "turbo" mufflers, which are a knock off of something? An don't all of them have weakness in their designs where corners have been cut?

The only item we sell that is a knock off is our Fullblown line. Everything else we sell is genuine brand name products. And I don't make unsubstantiated claims that I cannot back.

 

I was not against the guy buying your product. I told the guy if you are willing to guarentee it fits try yours he doesn't have anything to lose if you stand buy it. Dig up the thread if you want.

I never said you produce knock-offs. I stated I don't buy knock-offs in reply to your "$100 for a brand stamp comment" You can bet Flowmaster puts $$$ into R&D on their products. I agree Flowmaster is overpriced, but at least you know what your getting with the brand.

You bash other manufactuers products and don't yield any actual proof supporting your claims, at least none I've seen. Of course every manuf. or distributor claims there products are best. Thats not the way I do business and I guess it just rubs me the wrong way.

 

Ok, could you PM me with some examples of products I have bashed that I can not substantiate. I'm sorry if it rubs you that wrong way, I don't intend to come across that way. Yes, Flowmaster puts a lot of money into R&D. However, they also put a lot of money into promotional advertising, celebrity endorsements, and giving their distributors incentives, such as Caribbean cruises. And guess who's paying for it. But you are right, Flowmaster does make a good product. We have a project that I am not at liberty to discuss at this time of a new muffler we are developing.

 

On the Magnaflow, Gerlichs and Catco cats that you have said are inferior to your converter.

How about some cutaway views of your cat vs the competitors cats and point out what makes yours "better". All I see is talk and no hard info. If your going to put down other products you better come up with some examples. Its better to educate and show examples than to just say the competitor is inferior, at least in my book.

 

Take a look at our website. We performed a test comparison through an independant laboratory to compare the efficiency. I don't need to explain who won the comparison. The Catcos use a dual bed catalyst which is not appropriate for modern OBD-II vehicles. It was a technological band-aid which has long since outlived its time, but Catco lacks the technology to break free from this design. In terms or airflow, our cats are matching them. On our website, we did a side by side comparison of our cats primary features, so you can take a look at whatever brand you choose, and run down the list and say either, yes, this cat has this feature, or no it doesn't

Are the other brands 100% stainless steel? Show me one that is. Let me tell you right now, Magnaflow, Catco, Georlich, Dynomax, Eastern, you name it, they all fall short unless you pay a premium for a polished one.

If they are stainless steel, is it workable and sturdy? We don't have this one our website yet, but lets just say we broke a few converters for science. Lets also say ours didn't fail when exposed to the same stresses. And I will be posting these updated stress tests on our website shortly. We also have the test results for Several other brands that will be added shortly. The results are all the same. Our converters are better because they have been designed to be.

Lets take another look
Our warranty on our converters is 4 years, 50,000 miles. No one else offers this kind of warranty except for on California OBD-II converters, which are required to have that kind of warranty by law. As best I can tell, the California OBD-II warranty does not apply outside the state of California. Seems to me they left a pretty convenient loophole.

How about the thickness of the materials. Seems everyone else uses pretty thin stuff. I will be adding this information to our website shortly. I have plenty of proof that our product is superior. Anyone who says otherwise just hasn't done the comparison.

When you get into the catalyst itself, the only thing that really matter is who makes the substrate. Is it made my an aftermarket manufacturer? Or is it made my an OE automaker. And if an OE manufacturer, which one.

 

That sample sound on your site sounds horrible. Something like a 79 Datsun with a rotted out muffler.