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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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Cool Big Oil

You want to cut the price of fuel in half? TAKE OIL OFF THE STOCK MARKET.
Let the yuppies go out and get a real job instead of making our life miserable.
What do you think?
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by evictorwalli
Why just the truckers? Why not have everyone stop driving to work along with the truckers. One business day a week. I hate Mondays anyhow. Ride a bike, take a bus, walk, stay home. Imagine the chaos!
That just screws to much up, puts jobs behind then I don't get payed on time start missing mortgage payments maybe, no thank you! I've been paying over $100 per tank of fuel for over a year already and it doesn't make me drive any less, now I'm paying about $120-$130 and it still doesn't bother me any, I only have to fill up about once a week though so its not so bad for me.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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If you want the answer to the big question just read through this forums post.......It is uncapable for the american people to stand united together and change their own lives!

It can only happen when we have a huge dissasster. Fuel aint going no where but up and there's nothing any one of us can do about it but wait on the engineers to give us a more fuel efficient design.

Now, the reason that a full truck strike will never happen is because of two reasons-
1- If I park my trucks for even a day there is thousand or more sorry pieces of trash cut throats that will go in and haul my load for whatever it pays.....so the freight still moves!!!
2- you large companys will not nor ever park their trucks unless they are going out of business. When I worked for CNW they bought fuel by the truckloads at every terminal across the country...particularly atlanta recieved 4-10,000 gallon drops in a 24 hour period-5 days a week...fuel was high then at $2.50/gal to the public...CNW paid about $1.75/gal on average.......so why should they park their trucks when they still haven't feelt the strain on the wallet at the pumps?????And they never will as long as they have buying power!

We little men are the ones who feel the burn...but As always the rising cost gets passed onto the consumer so we all pay if one way or another!
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 01:00 AM
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Not only do we truckers pay more than 50% of our gross to fuel these days, but as consumers, we pay the higher prices too!!! So we get it coming and going!!!

As far as the strike, even if it happened, it wouldn't do a bit of good,,, they tried in the 70's when we had the "fuel shortage",,, I don't know about you, but I have already gone for six weeks without a paycheck waiting for the road restrictions to come off in my area,, and can't go another six or even three to make a statement about high fuel prices!! Trucks are expensive to run, and the bills don't stop coming in just because the cost of fuel as gone up!!!
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 05:05 AM
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it would be cool if we could get all tanker drivers to not deliver fuel of any kind to service staions for a week. Let them all go MT
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 05:40 AM
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mnmwhit, that would more than likly drive fuel prices up not down.

as far as a truckers strike goes the closest thing that has come is around here alot of the smaller trucking companys will not leave without a full load, somtimes they will let a truck sit for 1-2 days till they can fill it up going in that direction. they say it just dosent pay to leave with anything less than a full load
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 05:43 AM
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as far as our company goes, we are transporting our equepment in vans and pickup/trailer and letting our big box trucks sit other than when we absolulty have to use them or for short trips around town, our big trucks hardly leave the city anymore
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 06:02 AM
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Fuel price are what they are not much gonna change that. We need to back of the regulations on drilling and refinery building that would have more of an impact on prices than anything else.
As for the engineers coming up with better more efficient trucks and cars,once again reduce the regulations so folks that have ideas can get in there. Right now it takes a few million dollars befor an idea of an automobile to get from the idea stage to the road because of all the test and government red tape.
What is happening here is not a trucker crisis or fuel crisi or even a consumer crisis. It is a national crisis that spans all these and more. We as a nation grew and became what we are during the industrial age people had the freedom to build and try out new things. If you want prices to go down on anything you have to get the government to back off and let the market work. If folks want extreme economy and the auto and truck builders are alowed to build what consumers want then extreme economy vehicles will be everywhere. But when the regulations are so strict that it chokes out new ideas you get what we have now. Everyone building the same thing and little progress is made.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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I don't think thats true. Its about supply and demand.

If they stop shipping fuels for a week the refineries won't shut down....they will just keep building a stock pile of fuel. When ever there are huge stock piles of fuel prices go down.

demand will go up because everyone will be needing fuel after trying to make what they had last for a few days.

The best part is.....this country will grind to a halt. And I think thats what we need to do. We need to stop this country long enough to open dialoge about these fuel prices. I'm tired of hearing about what Obama slipped up and said. I'm tired of hearing about Hulk Hogan's kid killing someone in a car wreck. Our nations crisis is these fuel prices but you don't hear much about it in the news. You don't hear about it from the Canidates. I want this on the front burner.



Originally Posted by 884x4broncoII
mnmwhit, that would more than likly drive fuel prices up not down.

as far as a truckers strike goes the closest thing that has come is around here alot of the smaller trucking companys will not leave without a full load, somtimes they will let a truck sit for 1-2 days till they can fill it up going in that direction. they say it just dosent pay to leave with anything less than a full load
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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i think it would turn into an senerio like the movie "the road warrior" well not quite that bad, but people would do whatever they had to go get fuel, and as soon as the first fuel delivery trucks showed up people would pay 10 dollars a gallon if thats the price they asked them to
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Yea & imagine the lost jobs and house forclosures and new people on welfare. rugerman
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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If the "corrupt system" model is used to explain US fuel prices, it does not account for rest-of-world consumption. Fuel is still relatively cheap here.

Want it cheaper? Do radical things to cut consumption, like rationing. We are at war, so why not institute fuel rationing instead of letting the market inflate prices? Unlike letting the market set the prices, it does not punish the consumer. Ration petroleum fuels, and do not ration alternatives.

As for trucking, why isn't the price increase passed on to the client who pays for the load?
If the large firms are getting better bulk deals, perhaps a non-profit independent owner-operator fuel co-op could be formed to bargain for the same rates.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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Supply and demand is exactly what I am talking about. There is a huge demand and the supply of refined products are limited by government regulations. Open this and the companies will make available the supply. If they don't then without the strict regulation other investors can open new refineries and give so called "Big Oil" a run for their money that is how the market works if you back off and let it work. Anywhere there is a demand there will be someone ready to supply it. As it stands right now there is no way anyone can "Break Into" the market bacause laws are such that even the Big Oil guys can't build new refineries or look for new pockets how in the world can a start up company compete when the doors are closed to the current ones? We have to look at who it is we are putting in the position to make decisions. John F. Kennedy said it best "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." My fellow Democrats as well as anyone who is reading this of whatever party vote to do what is best for our country not folks that are just trying to purchase your vote with entitlements. This will have a greater effect on fuel prices and all other consumer goods than any strike in any industry. You want a strike then strike against what is going on in Washington DC and see what happens.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wb6anp
A local news article about truckers said that they are slowing down to save fuel,they said a change from 75 mph to 65 mph save about 2 mpg. doesn't seem like much but for the distances they drive it ends up being quite a bit.
do you have a side pic of that truck?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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Sorry but...... That kid hasnt died yet has he? ( the one in hulks son car crash) Last I new he was basically a vegetable.
 
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