Towing/Performance Engine?
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Highboy sign up over there at 460ford.com.There is a wealth of knowledge there.Alot of guys there with alot more smarts than me.
A CJ block isnt really anything special.What are you calling cheap for those blocks?
A CJ block isnt really anything special.What are you calling cheap for those blocks?
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Originally Posted by highboy250
So I'd probably wanna tone down the horses and build it for low end torque? Lookin' at a trailer right now that's 7170 lb dry.
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a decent sized I6 will make more low end power than a similar sized v8.the one thing i luv about my 300 tho is that no bibg block will take the abuse of the 300,the M5od tranny........different story
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Signed up at 460ford.com. 
Waiting on them to confirm registration. 
Sorry, I might be remembering wrong, but I believe the block I found was a D0VE-A, but it sat at $100 without a bidder. Although it wasn't too clean and was strictly the block.
Yes, I was plannin' on 4:10's with a 4 speed NP235.
And I like the 300 and all, but all I'm interested in is the 429/460
Waiting on them to confirm registration. Sorry, I might be remembering wrong, but I believe the block I found was a D0VE-A, but it sat at $100 without a bidder. Although it wasn't too clean and was strictly the block.
Yes, I was plannin' on 4:10's with a 4 speed NP235.
And I like the 300 and all, but all I'm interested in is the 429/460
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A 6 cyl eng will generally generate more torque than an 8 cyl of the same displacement due to the larger cylinder volume (more air & fuel) and the larger surface area on top of the piston for the cylinder pressure to act upon. The downside is that the 6 cyl needs to have heavier duty components which are heavier and prevent the engine from revving as high as an 8cyl and as a result they make less Hp.
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Originally Posted by brh1969
I never said a thing about a 6cyl and a v8 of the same displacement.What im talking about is the people that tell me their stock 300 6 cyl will outpull my built 460.
there is a guy on here that i read about that put a turbo on a 300. now that would have a chance, depending on boost.
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From: Van Isl, BC, Canada
Ya, I read about that turbo'd 300 too. Pretty sweet.
Sooo, I've decided the the 460 build is gonna be too tight for my budget and time allotment for this year. Especially since I've never built an engine before, and wanna take my time on it. I still plan on using a 460 for now and build another one for the truck later. So, raising another question:
How would a stock 460 feel about pullin' 8000-9000 lbs? Estimating that as my loaded weight.
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What would I need to do in order to comfortably pull 8000-9000 lbs?
Thanks
Sooo, I've decided the the 460 build is gonna be too tight for my budget and time allotment for this year. Especially since I've never built an engine before, and wanna take my time on it. I still plan on using a 460 for now and build another one for the truck later. So, raising another question:
How would a stock 460 feel about pullin' 8000-9000 lbs? Estimating that as my loaded weight.
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What would I need to do in order to comfortably pull 8000-9000 lbs?
Thanks
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A stock 460 will do the job,it wont be no run away.Ive pulled my camper 14,900 empty probably around 16,000 with all my crap with a stock 460.This one was in a 78 f250 Camper Special.If you can find you a decent running motor theres a few things you can do to it without breaking the bank.IMO an rv cam is a must,Cevite cams are cheap,ive used a few and never had a problem.Early 429/460 timing set,but you have to watch how your cam is ground.Some aftermarket cams have the advance already built in.Stock Duraspark Distributor is great,its all ive ever used even on racing engines,but they can be recurved for your application.4 barrel intake,square bore,cast iron is good for now or if you can afford a good one it can always go on your new motor later.Headers are good they dont have to go on now can be done later.A 4.10 or lower gear can make up for alot of missing power.Use a good carb,if it says Motocraft on it throw it as far as you can.
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I had a 460 in my 350 with a stock C-6 and a US Gear underdrive and towed eveything up to 20,000 without an issue. Never got hot, still had to watch my speed untill I hit 10.000. Check around somewhere I know is someone who can put the numbers in and give you the ideal carb cfm for what you want to do. Remember everyone has an opinion and they all have their good points but you need to do what makes you happy and gets it done.
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From: Van Isl, BC, Canada
Well all looks good for my plans thus far. Guess in a few months here I'll be pickin' up the pickup and seeing what's gotta get done. Guess I'll throw a new thread up here when the time comes to working out the details.
Thanks a lot guys
Thanks a lot guys
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I think that you will find that a 460 with very few after market parts will produce all the power you will need. The RV cam I used will bring the peak torque down to the lower rpms where you need them and the 650 carb was small enough so you can still afford to drive it. I pulled a 27 ft 5ver with a 17.5 ft boat and never ran out of petal. The truck would still smoke the tires through 2nd gear with 4.10 gears and stock tires .
Remember back when Dodge cam out with their V10, a guy with one egged me on until I raced him on the street. He wasn't near as proud of his V10 after I smoked his butt
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.Remember back when Dodge cam out with their V10, a guy with one egged me on until I raced him on the street. He wasn't near as proud of his V10 after I smoked his butt
.Denny