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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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c-6 slipping in 3rd

I have a c-6 in my Highboy 390 4x4. I hauled some really heavy loads up a very steep hill. I ran low on tranny fluid and had to put in what the local grocery store had, { not the correct fluid] I drained the fluid and refilled with the right stuff. Now when my truck warms up it starts slipping in third gear then in all gears. I have a new tranny to put in it. Does this sound like I need to replace, or am I jumping the gun? I find that usually I think it is going to be a majoir repair and turns into something simple. I.E. adjust bands? Flush tranny?It has a new Modulator.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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Did the fluid you drained out smell burnt? The series of events you have discribed does not bode well for your tranny. Low on fluid+heavy load=overheating=burnt clutches.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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It didn't smell burnt but it was the wrong type. It wasn't type F.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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Did you change the filter also or did you just drain the fluid somehow? What did the bottom of the pan look like? C-6's are a good trans put they do wear out.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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If it gets worse the hotter it gets I'm willing to bet you are in for a tranny change. A c-6 will take a tremendous amount of punishment but when the slip due to low fluid with a load and up hill too add to the stress, it doesn't take long to cook the bands. I cooked one from just towing a truck out of the garage ( it was a chevy I was towing-- dead weight) with the trans about 2 or 3 Qts low, by the end of the day all it did was get me home after work, made the driveway but would make it in the garage.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 02:13 AM
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oh no you mean they have filters. I guess that answers alot of questions. Got the tranny pulled yesterday and putting in a new on. Where is the filter and how hard is a shift kit to put in?
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 02:27 AM
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SOmeone verse me here, when one says "bands" in an auto trnny do you mean the clutch pack? I thought most autos used sets of steel circular flat rings and clutch material between them and there is several layers of ring/cluch ring/ring/clutch ring etc etc..

Am I way off here?
 
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 07:49 AM
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Two Bands, and I believe two clutch packs as well. When the bands and clutches work together normally it controls a planetary gear set that makes up your 1,2,3 and reverse gears. There is also a one way roller clutch built in as well.

Sidebar note: If anyone uses a transmission from a salvage yard? Some of the yards will intentionally drop the pan and remove the filter unit. That way the new owner will be forced to install a new filter, otherwise the warranty will be invalid.

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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:25 AM
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Another sidebar note- the last transmission I purchased from a salvage yard they would only warranty if I installed a new trans cooler. Probly not a bad idea anyway.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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Where is the filter? I would like to change the new one. And start with clean fluid.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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Please do not take this as an insult, it's hard to know someones understanding of auto/truck mechanics by just the typed word.

I'd strongly urge picking up a copy of a Haynes manual or Chilton's manual for your year/model. That will answer quite a few questions and be very valuable source of base line information.

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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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Unbolt and remove the pan and the filter is right there.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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Thanks I've never changed the filter before, I'm not insulted by the chiltons manual comment either. I've never seen the filter ,I have the tranny out now and have to swap the rear section onto my new tranny, Might as well put a new filter on and maybe a shift kit if it's not too much trubble. My truck had an extra cross member in the front that had to be removed. I unbolted it but it had to have two stuborn rivets groud out before it would clear. ,,,,,What a pain.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 11:03 PM
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Yeah...these ol' beasts can be a pain.

The filter is not bad to change out. I'd recommend using an anti-seize stuff on the threads of the pan bolts when it's put back together. (don't ask..LOL)

As for shift kits? Well...you'll have the filter out of the way of the valve body at this point. It's pretty much following the instructions with the kit. Just use care with the valve body parts. I've not had a C-6 apart at this point (mostly a few GM's and others) Some use check ***** and springs that can fly around when you least expect it. The kits instructions should explain.

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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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I've never had a pan bolt get hard to remove on a c-6, never been dry enough. I hear I need to use something other than type f fluid too.
 
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