Notices
Excursion - King of SUVs 2000 - 2005 Ford Excursion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

4x4 Doa....help!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 15, 2008 | 06:38 PM
  #1  
CanadianSmokie's Avatar
CanadianSmokie
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 783
Likes: 0
From: Nova Scotia
4x4 Doa....help!!

Its snowing (again) and the 4X4 won't engage. A little over a week ago, I had the truck in four wheel drive (auto, with the dash switch) and it worked fine. When I came out to the pavement, the light wouldn't go off on the dash and the front hubs wouldn't disengage. Stayed that way for about half an hour til I pulled into get some supper. When I came out and started the truck, the light was off on the dash (I assumed the hubs were disengaged as it didn't turn hop). On the way home I noticed (felt more than heard) an intermittant hum/vibration from the drivetrain at about a one second frequency.

I tried the 4X4 again a few days later but the light wouldn't come on.

Forward to tonight.... I knew I was going to need the four wheel drive so I manually engaged the hubs before I left the house. Backed her up and drove off with the tail swinging...obviously the front wheel weren't helpin me at all. I still felt the one second frequency hum as I was going along, so i pulled over and set the hubs back to auto. The hums still there.

Does any one have any idea what is going on? I thought that if there was a vacuum leak or something else to cause the auto 4X4 to not work, then the manual would. Are my hubs totally shot?

Help!!
 
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2008 | 07:22 PM
  #2  
H1449-6's Avatar
H1449-6
More Turbo
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 584
Likes: 14
From: Austin, TX
I don't know how to fix your problem but it must suck to live in a place where it snows in mid-March.
 
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2008 | 11:18 PM
  #3  
JCart's Avatar
JCart
Tuned
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 294
Likes: 16
From: Kamloops, BC. Canada
Hey CanadianSmokie not sure but will take a stab at it. If you unlock the manual hubs and put in 2X4 then back up a bit 10 feet or so. Now get out and under and grab the front drive shaft and give it a twist. It should turn over readily....means you're unlocked right. Not sure on how the vaccum system works as mine is an old '96 CC F350 7.3 4X4. The vibration may be a warn universal joint???


jrc
 
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2008 | 11:23 PM
  #4  
JCart's Avatar
JCart
Tuned
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 294
Likes: 16
From: Kamloops, BC. Canada
Originally Posted by H1449-6
I don't know how to fix your problem but it must suck to live in a place where it snows in mid-March.
H1449-6....snow Mid-March.....suck....???? Guessing you've never tried powder skiing hahahaaa.... Kids, wife and I'll be thinking of you tomorrow.....as we'll be out rippin' through all the NEW FRESH SNOW. While you're what.....? mowing.....watching the grass grow (just kidding).....heh heh.....it's not all that bad...snow I mean, in mid March or April......

jrc
 
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 12:10 AM
  #5  
mudmaker's Avatar
mudmaker
Posting Guru
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,498
Likes: 3
From: Windsor, Colorado
If you are manually locking them then it has something to do with the transfer case shift motor. With them manually locked the vacuum doesnt matter. Have you checked all the fuses?
 
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 12:35 AM
  #6  
CanadianSmokie's Avatar
CanadianSmokie
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 783
Likes: 0
From: Nova Scotia
Haven't had a chance to check the fuses, but will do tomorrow. For the sake of being lazy and not searching, does anyone have a diagram of the fuse box or know where the fuse might be for the four wheel system?

Thanx for your help so far... any other ideas would be appreciated. Don't want to have to take it to the dealership to diagnose.....
 
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 01:39 AM
  #7  
mudmaker's Avatar
mudmaker
Posting Guru
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,498
Likes: 3
From: Windsor, Colorado
I think the fuse you are looking for is #111. It is a 30 amp fuse. Here is a link to a 2002 owners manual. look on page 189.

http://www.analogstereo.com/pdf/om/e...anual_2002.pdf
 
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 03:03 AM
  #8  
CanadianSmokie's Avatar
CanadianSmokie
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 783
Likes: 0
From: Nova Scotia
Thanx Marc!!

Maybe I can get my dash power socket and the mirror heaters working now as well
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-4

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-9

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 06:55 AM
  #9  
CanadianSmokie's Avatar
CanadianSmokie
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 783
Likes: 0
From: Nova Scotia
Well, just back back from the dealership... its the shift motor for the transfer case thats gone. Sounds not to bad right?..... $850 for the motor!! I'm going to see about getting a used one or see if one of the Ford parts sponsors on here can do better. According to the tranny tech, it's not uncommon for these to go. Just thought this might help out someone else whose four whell drive sustem stops functioning.
 
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2008 | 12:58 AM
  #10  
ZBIGBIG19TH's Avatar
ZBIGBIG19TH
Elder User
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 706
Likes: 0
From: Montreal,Canada
what? $850 or $85 ???
 
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2008 | 07:50 AM
  #11  
vettdvr's Avatar
vettdvr
Posting Guru
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,720
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by ZBIGBIG19TH
what? $850 or $85 ???


Really good question. From what I remember on my 2000 there are 2 bolts holding on the electric motor and a wire plug in. I found a replacement part around $189 and 30 minutes to install after the truck is on the hoist. ON mine I would not even jack it,, just slide under and change it.

$850 sounds a bit like taking advantage of someone driving in the snow. Summer prices would probably be lower is my guess.

 
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2008 | 09:32 AM
  #12  
CanadianSmokie's Avatar
CanadianSmokie
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 783
Likes: 0
From: Nova Scotia
Yeah, I contacted one of the parts sponsors on here and they have it for $250 plus shipping.

Vettedvr, where is the motor located and is it easily accessible? Thanx...
 
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2008 | 10:18 AM
  #13  
vettdvr's Avatar
vettdvr
Posting Guru
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,720
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by CanadianSmokie
Vettedvr, where is the motor located and is it easily accessible? Thanx...
It is just behind the transmission at the front of the driveshaft. If you crawl under you should see it on the transfer case. I think it is on the front if I remember correctly.

You might just clean the connections before you order a new one.
 
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2008 | 10:22 PM
  #14  
CanadianSmokie's Avatar
CanadianSmokie
Thread Starter
|
Elder User
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 783
Likes: 0
From: Nova Scotia
Originally Posted by vettdvr
You might just clean the connections before you order a new one.
Thanx...will try that first.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
docsuby
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
13
Jan 17, 2014 05:24 AM
Beeler
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
31
Dec 27, 2012 10:20 AM
beverlylawncare
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
5
Feb 6, 2009 09:42 AM
SMB
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
3
Feb 21, 2003 09:29 AM
harryball
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
16
May 9, 2002 10:29 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:59 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE