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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 04:55 PM
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4x4 frustrations

Hi guys. I'm gettin to my limit with the front wheels not getting power on my 2000 F250. I put warn gold lockers on the last year. Had an issue with the hubs engaging. So I replaced the hubs this past summer, everything appeared fine. Then it got cold, and the hubs once again wouldn't engage. So I pulled disengagement spring out of the lockers, so the front end would always be locked in. Tested on gravel and everything appeared great. Tryed to use it today, and once again, I'm not getting any power to the front end!! I can hear the electric actuator on the transfer case. And I get the light on the dash. I don't know what to look at next. Any suggestions?
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 04:57 PM
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First, can you tell us how are you determining that you are "not getting any power to the front end"?
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 05:03 PM
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The reason I engaged it today, was I was trying to get a skid loader trailer pulled out of a friends yard. First tried in 2wd then after spinning the tires a few times I put it in 4x4, heard the actuator as I stated above, and still only spun the back tires. The front s didnt even twitch.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 06:09 PM
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with it engaged (according to the switch) get down there and see if the front drive shaft turns freely. If it does then your hubs are not engaged.

If it doesn't then look at the transfer case.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 06:44 PM
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Ok so lets say it's the transfer case. How common is the actuator not engaging the case?
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 06:46 PM
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Fairly common. The shift motor is available at most decent autopart stores.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 07:11 PM
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OK tested the half shafts and front drive shaft, they will not spin by hand so the transfercase has to be the culprit. I'm wondering, how do I here the "clunk" of the actuator and the light comes on, if it is the actuator motor?
 
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 07:14 PM
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I call this use it or lose it. The motor will freeze up. I've always been told, I tell everyone and I do use my 4wd at least 2x a month. Lock it in 4 and put a couple miles on.
 
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Ok, try this to confirm. with it in 4hi try to make a turn. If it is locked in then it will bind on you as you try to turn.

This is not to be done at more than off idle as it is hard on the drive train.

Other thing you can do is to have someone shift into 4 hi while you listen down at the transfer case.

Alternatively you can remove the actuator and check it.
 
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Well, we just had a blizzard here today, so nothing is gonna bind. I had read that the 4x4 light will not come on unless the transfer case actually shifts? Is that right? Or does the motor just have to move and maybe the gear box had has stripped gears (read that was common)
 
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A blizzard? Where in the wide wide world of sports are you? Yukon? We've had about 1 foot in the past couple of days, but no blizzards.
 
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A blizzard? Where in the wide wide world of sports are you? Yukon? We've had about 1 foot in the past couple of days, but no blizzards.
Well, much of MN, ND, and SD have been under a Blizzard Warning all day today.

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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 10:23 PM
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I'm near Des Moines, IA. We had thunder snow, with 50mph winds. Didn't last but 3 hours but everything that hit the ground froze in place. (its been COLD here lately) (my Minnesota brothers can relate) So we had instant icecapades. Great time to not have 4wd.
 
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Seen the same in northern Wisconsin. Bitter cold last few weeks, warmed up a little last weekend and rained, but the ground was still frozen and it created an ice skating rink on all roads. This week were down in the 5-25 range and more snow.

As for the shift motor, ,AFAIK most guys just replace them and don't bother tearing them down. I am not sure what is the common root cause of failure.
 
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