Notices
1999 - 2016 Super Duty 1999 to 2016 Ford F250, F350, F450 and F550 Super Duty with diesel V8 and gas V8 and V10 engines
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Real Truck

Lift blocks???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 14, 2008 | 09:02 PM
  #1  
emmagator's Avatar
emmagator
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 333
Likes: 0
From: Roseburg, Or
Lift blocks???

What is the difference between a tapered lift bblock and a regular lift block? And are there pros and cons of each?

Thanks, DB
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2008 | 09:12 PM
  #2  
schmidt64's Avatar
schmidt64
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 820
Likes: 0
From: BC, Canada
You use either one depending on the body style of your truck. I believe the shorter wheel base trucks (regular cab/long box and super cab/long box) use the tapered blocks while all others use the flat ones.
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2008 | 09:22 PM
  #3  
emmagator's Avatar
emmagator
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 333
Likes: 0
From: Roseburg, Or
So it has nothing to do with how the blocks make the truck sit or ride? Just depends on which block fits ur model of truck
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2008 | 09:30 PM
  #4  
schmidt64's Avatar
schmidt64
Elder User
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 820
Likes: 0
From: BC, Canada
No it has nothing to do with that and ride height is determined by wether they were from an F250 or F350. F250 is 1 7/8" tall and F350 is 3 7/8" tall.
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2008 | 09:39 PM
  #5  
emmagator's Avatar
emmagator
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 333
Likes: 0
From: Roseburg, Or
Well im looking at aftermarket blocks. Im getting a 6" lift so i will need 4" blocks, and i notice some say tapered and some say flat, so Ill have to make sure i get the right ones.
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2008 | 10:27 PM
  #6  
DCSpecial's Avatar
DCSpecial
Post Fiend
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 6,245
Likes: 1
From: IL, USA
One piece driveshafts.....tapered block
Two piece driveshaft......flat block and a carrier bearing shim.


Only difference is that the tapered ones change the pinion angle and the flat ones do not.

Note* some custom two piece driveshafts that use a CV after the carrier bearing need a tapered block as well.
 
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2008 | 12:43 AM
  #7  
cartmanea's Avatar
cartmanea
Lead Driver
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,757
Likes: 5
From: Corvallis, OR
I used a tapered block and have some driveline shudder. I've read this is because the pinion angle is different from the transfer case output shaft. Using a flat block keeps them parallel and is the best configuration, is this correct?
 
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2008 | 10:30 AM
  #8  
DCSpecial's Avatar
DCSpecial
Post Fiend
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 6,245
Likes: 1
From: IL, USA
Originally Posted by cartmanea
I used a tapered block and have some driveline shudder. I've read this is because the pinion angle is different from the transfer case output shaft. Using a flat block keeps them parallel and is the best configuration, is this correct?

Does your truck have a one piece rear driveshaft or a two piece rear driveshaft with a carrier bearing?

If it's a SC SWB, I think it has a one piece....SC LWB has a two piece.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Mar 15, 2008 | 11:52 AM
  #9  
cartmanea's Avatar
cartmanea
Lead Driver
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,757
Likes: 5
From: Corvallis, OR
Its the one in my sig, super cab, short box. It has a one piece driveshaft. Overkill suggested I replace my tranny mount with a 7.3 one since it has some play in it and he says the 7.3 tranny mount has better isolation.
 
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2008 | 06:42 PM
  #10  
DCSpecial's Avatar
DCSpecial
Post Fiend
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 6,245
Likes: 1
From: IL, USA
Yep, if the angles are good on your driveshaft the 7.3 trans mount is much stiffer vs. the 6.0 one.
 
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2008 | 07:06 PM
  #11  
cartmanea's Avatar
cartmanea
Lead Driver
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,757
Likes: 5
From: Corvallis, OR
So should I switch from tapered blocks to flat blocks to get my pinion parallel with my transfer case shaft before I change tranny mounts? If the different tranny mount will just hide the problem I'd rather fix the source.
 
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2008 | 07:40 PM
  #12  
DCSpecial's Avatar
DCSpecial
Post Fiend
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 6,245
Likes: 1
From: IL, USA
Is there a CV on the driveshaft by the t-case?
 
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2008 | 09:13 PM
  #13  
cartmanea's Avatar
cartmanea
Lead Driver
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 6,757
Likes: 5
From: Corvallis, OR
No there is not, if there were the pinion should be angled towards it, correct? Sorry I kinda hijacked this thread...
 
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 03:07 PM
  #14  
KelVarnson's Avatar
KelVarnson
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,852
Likes: 39
Club FTE Silver Member

You are right on track, Cartmanea. If you have u-joints on both ends of the driveshaft, the total angle needs to be divided equally between the u-joints on each end of the shaft. If you have a CV on one end and a u-joint on the other, you want to try to minimize the angle in the u-joint (e.g. pointing the pinion up).

As the angle increases on a u-joint, it imparts a variation in the rotational speed of the shaft, twice in each revolution. A properly-phased u-joint on the other end, with the same angle, cancels this variation back out. So having the pinion and the TC output shafts parallel is ideal.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
gentrykm
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
7
Oct 31, 2014 06:24 AM
mean1500
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
3
Sep 15, 2013 12:29 AM
4EyedTurd
WTB - Parts & other
3
Jul 23, 2012 03:33 AM
jleal_21
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
7
Dec 29, 2010 09:33 PM
stevenn1
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
41
Feb 24, 2007 04:52 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:22 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE