Time for motor mods
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,052
Likes: 1
From: Jacksonville FL
Been reserching more about roller rockers and it looks like some people have problems with them hitting the valve covers.. Will this be a problem with stock covers?
Also they say Stud Size: 5/16 in. what is stock size? Will these studs work?
thanks
Also they say Stud Size: 5/16 in. what is stock size? Will these studs work?
thanks
Posting Guru
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,757
Likes: 2
From: Florida
Alotta people do have problems with the 1.7's hitting the VC's however get a set of tall covers and a one inch phenolic spacer to go between the intakes to clear the intake over the VC's........5/16's are stock i believe...however alot of people use stud girdles for higher rpm applications.......they tend to break under load.Check out my gallery for a bunch of tech Pics...and I mean a BUNCH......Lemme think on it a bit more and I'll get to ya...Good Luck
JR
JR
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,052
Likes: 1
From: Jacksonville FL
Originally Posted by flareside_thunder
Alotta people do have problems with the 1.7's hitting the VC's however get a set of tall covers and a one inch phenolic spacer to go between the intakes to clear the intake over the VC's........5/16's are stock i believe...however alot of people use stud girdles for higher rpm applications.......they tend to break under load.Check out my gallery for a bunch of tech Pics...and I mean a BUNCH......Lemme think on it a bit more and I'll get to ya...Good Luck
JR
JR
Posting Guru
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,757
Likes: 2
From: Florida
I know you're keepin tabs on that other thread.....go to a boneyard find some late 70's early 80's VC's and trim the baffles.....that gets you around having to get tall covers....get the spacer anyways...it's supposed to help your low end torque.....
JR
JR
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,052
Likes: 1
From: Jacksonville FL
Originally Posted by flareside_thunder
I know you're keepin tabs on that other thread.....go to a boneyard find some late 70's early 80's VC's and trim the baffles.....that gets you around having to get tall covers....get the spacer anyways...it's supposed to help your low end torque.....
JR
JR
I found an intake spacer on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...TODAY.m238.lVI
will this one work for me?
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,052
Likes: 1
From: Jacksonville FL
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer
Joe Kucinski
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)
Brett Foote
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies
Joe Kucinski
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make
Brett Foote
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!
Michael S. Palmer
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!
Joe Kucinski
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?
Brett Foote
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!
Michael S. Palmer
Elder User
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 501
Likes: 0
the crane 1.7 rockers will fit under your stock vavle covers. i run them on my gt mustang and they fit. there is baffles that you can cut out of the stock valve covers. another thing to do is take the fan off and install a electric fan. switch to MAF to get the most out of it, because a speed density system doesnot know there is more air coming in. put a 180 degree thermostat and bump timing up to 14-16 btdc (have to run good gas). put a cold air intake. msd blaster coil, regular autoligt spark plugs and a msd 6 box. run long tubes, and do not use the gskts that come with it. either get the copper ones, or alum. ones that are reuseable. i run the alum ones on both my mustangs and they have been great. this is the basic setup that i run on my 94 mustang gt and it runs 13.0 and can get 26mpg on the highway. obviously in a truck it will not be the same but these are proven, cost effective bolt ons.
Elder User
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 501
Likes: 0
or you can bypass all of that and run a turbo system. my cobra has 500rwhp running 10lbs of boost. and torque like you would not beleive. if you are creative you can run a junkyard setup for $500 if your good with a welder.
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,052
Likes: 1
From: Jacksonville FL
I would love to do all that but im a broke 17 year old kid
Im looking into making a custom CAI for it soon but 1st I need a 2into1 splitter pipe for the intake tubes so I only have to run 1 intake tube to the airbox.
Mass air conversions are to expensive for me right now but maybe down the road ill look into it more. What electric fans would work for me? I already have the AC and smog pump deleted for alittle more power. Planning on getting Flowtech longtube headers for my birthday(only 8 days away)
Glad the rockers will fit now it will only cost me $180+ shipping instead of $180 for rockers,$100 for valve covers and $60 for intake spacer.
I dont think turbo would be good for me because I would have to make my own kit for it and I cant weld plus it would get expensive very quick. Also dont think my truck could handle that much power.
thanks for the help
Im looking into making a custom CAI for it soon but 1st I need a 2into1 splitter pipe for the intake tubes so I only have to run 1 intake tube to the airbox.
Mass air conversions are to expensive for me right now but maybe down the road ill look into it more. What electric fans would work for me? I already have the AC and smog pump deleted for alittle more power. Planning on getting Flowtech longtube headers for my birthday(only 8 days away)
Glad the rockers will fit now it will only cost me $180+ shipping instead of $180 for rockers,$100 for valve covers and $60 for intake spacer.
I dont think turbo would be good for me because I would have to make my own kit for it and I cant weld plus it would get expensive very quick. Also dont think my truck could handle that much power.
thanks for the help
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 435
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA
You already have a cold air intake. Look here to see how to make it better for very little money. The only part you could buy that would help would be the input duct from a 460 that goes from the grill to the air-box.
I did what the article said and picked up 1mpg and several horses. It was almost free!
The article I linked to has several good ideas on how to increase hp and MPG. Some of the ideas are very inexpensive!
I did what the article said and picked up 1mpg and several horses. It was almost free!
The article I linked to has several good ideas on how to increase hp and MPG. Some of the ideas are very inexpensive!
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,052
Likes: 1
From: Jacksonville FL
Originally Posted by lmd91343
You already have a cold air intake. Look here to see how to make it better for very little money. The only part you could buy that would help would be the input duct from a 460 that goes from the grill to the air-box.
I did what the article said and picked up 1mpg and several horses. It was almost free!
The article I linked to has several good ideas on how to increase hp and MPG. Some of the ideas are very inexpensive!
I did what the article said and picked up 1mpg and several horses. It was almost free!
The article I linked to has several good ideas on how to increase hp and MPG. Some of the ideas are very inexpensive!
Also mine is an 86 so the airbox is over the driverside valve cover and it has an intake tube going from the grille to the airbox for cooler air. I want to make it like the 87-96s where the box is on the right side under the hood so it doesnt get hot from the motor running right under it.
Posting Guru
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,757
Likes: 2
From: Florida
Nah keep the tube running into the core support/grill and do a little trimming on it as well as yank the fiber rubber thing in front of it that's how mine is setup.....don't bother buying a CAI build your own...alot more cost effective...check out my gallery......LMD's link is the correct spacer for your intake ...the one you showed on ebay was for a GT40 (lightning) intake.......I agree with elmo's post the only things I'd change would be ditch the MSD Box and the autolite plugs....I use NGK V-powers and i noticed a difference when I switched from autolites...plus IIRC they're a tad cheaper too.........Don't rule out gearing either......if you lower your gears (numerically higher) you'll get a little better oopmh.........The stuff I've done on my truck is good for 290 HP at 340 FT/LBS of torque......Luck
JR
JR
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 435
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, CA
The article points out that lining the OUTSIDE of your airbox and intake tubes will lower your ACT temp and increase HP and MPG.
The stuff that they used is good up to 2k*. It is silvery reflective on the outside and has a silica substrate. It is covered with adhesive on one side. The chart they show indicates a very large ACT temperature decrease as demonstrated by a dyno test.
Just line the outside (including the bottom) of your box with that insulator.
tape link | sheet link | first choice |
I used DEI and thermotec products. I bought them cheaper than from Summit at my local speedshop (PAW). I lowered my intake temps by almost 100*. That is close to 9hp and 1mpg!
Good luck,
The stuff that they used is good up to 2k*. It is silvery reflective on the outside and has a silica substrate. It is covered with adhesive on one side. The chart they show indicates a very large ACT temperature decrease as demonstrated by a dyno test.
Just line the outside (including the bottom) of your box with that insulator.
tape link | sheet link | first choice |
I used DEI and thermotec products. I bought them cheaper than from Summit at my local speedshop (PAW). I lowered my intake temps by almost 100*. That is close to 9hp and 1mpg!
Good luck,