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Going back to my original post....
This just dawned on me or more appropriately hit me like a ton of bricks in an AH HA YUREKA! brain fart induced moment.....
When they first switched it to 5W40 (by looking @ the service dates) the lowest temps we were seeing at night were probably in the 40's-50's possibly even a touch warmer than that. At those temps it should have been a breeze to start up on the 1st try but the truck didn't - see my original post that started all this - Prev owner complained repeatedly about long crank times, rough running & hard starting.
At those temps Glow plugs (working or not) shouldn't even matter. This starts lending some relevance to this being a fuel delivery and/or fuel system related issue.
DG
This just dawned on me or more appropriately hit me like a ton of bricks in an AH HA YUREKA! brain fart induced moment.....
When they first switched it to 5W40 (by looking @ the service dates) the lowest temps we were seeing at night were probably in the 40's-50's possibly even a touch warmer than that. At those temps it should have been a breeze to start up on the 1st try but the truck didn't - see my original post that started all this - Prev owner complained repeatedly about long crank times, rough running & hard starting.
At those temps Glow plugs (working or not) shouldn't even matter. This starts lending some relevance to this being a fuel delivery and/or fuel system related issue.
DG
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*** Update ***
Just a quick update - I've put about 600 miles on this truck. All seems to be ok - changed the oil to 15W40. Several 25-30 deg mornings here since the purchase - didn't plug it in - fired right up.
Mileage seems to be a little less than my 7.3 but I haven't calculated it out yet - this is just based on how long a 1/2 tank would last w/ the 2000 making this same trip to work everyday. I'm filling up t-night and plan on calculating a more accurate MPG on the next couple of fillups.
Otherwise, So far so good.
DG
Mileage seems to be a little less than my 7.3 but I haven't calculated it out yet - this is just based on how long a 1/2 tank would last w/ the 2000 making this same trip to work everyday. I'm filling up t-night and plan on calculating a more accurate MPG on the next couple of fillups.
Otherwise, So far so good.
DG
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Nice find.
I've been thinking about an 08 F250 Supercab 4x4 Diesel Manual that has 41k miles on it. Dealer's asking 25,900. Oasis reports shows a camshaft position sensor being replaced at 14,000 miles 6 months after it was built. Oil was changed every 5k miles. Fuel filter was changed every other oil change. Anyone know what a 'WATER-FUEL SEP ELEM' is? For some reason, ZC 32A 'SPARK PLUGS' shows up occasionally. The truck was supposedly driven by a Ford exec as a lease and was auctioned off to Ford dealers.
The ESP Code is H and I guess it has the 72 month/100k mile warranty on it.
The reported problems are a little unnerving as this is a Job 1 truck, Build Date 1/16/2007. Thoughts?
Thanks.
I've been thinking about an 08 F250 Supercab 4x4 Diesel Manual that has 41k miles on it. Dealer's asking 25,900. Oasis reports shows a camshaft position sensor being replaced at 14,000 miles 6 months after it was built. Oil was changed every 5k miles. Fuel filter was changed every other oil change. Anyone know what a 'WATER-FUEL SEP ELEM' is? For some reason, ZC 32A 'SPARK PLUGS' shows up occasionally. The truck was supposedly driven by a Ford exec as a lease and was auctioned off to Ford dealers.
The ESP Code is H and I guess it has the 72 month/100k mile warranty on it.
The reported problems are a little unnerving as this is a Job 1 truck, Build Date 1/16/2007. Thoughts?
Thanks.
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Forgot to say originally - F350 4X4 SRW KR Ext Cab w/ towing pkg & Lim Skip
43K was the original discounted price. Sticker price was 49K - not sure why the 6k was taken off originally. Dealer was a little vague on this when I asked about the difference. State title application shows the 1st owner took over @ 900 miles. This may explain the 6K discount - Demo? Think the dealer just wants to unload this one at any cost - they've had it on their lot since Dec 3rd. State shows title transfer back to the dealer on the 1st - my guess is the previous owner came in and said give me my $$ back or I'll invoke the lemon law and make you give it back.
I'm going to take the offer @ 29K w/ 2 conditions. (They said ok to these a few minutes ago) They need to note the concerns so that if they come up again within 90days I can get a repair & a loaner truck for free (no
deductable or cost to me) and I'm going to ask that they let me drive it for 7days w/ a no questions asked return policy. They have a normal 3 day policy anyway so adding 4 to that shouldn't be a big deal. I'll put enough miles on it in a week to know if they fixed it based on the OASIS it looks like the prev owner only went 600-800 miles btw visits. I'll put about 500-600 on it the 1st week.
Just hope I don't get stranded on my trip. I'm going to pick it up tonight. This is wild - this is less than what I paid for my 2003 F350!!
DG
43K was the original discounted price. Sticker price was 49K - not sure why the 6k was taken off originally. Dealer was a little vague on this when I asked about the difference. State title application shows the 1st owner took over @ 900 miles. This may explain the 6K discount - Demo? Think the dealer just wants to unload this one at any cost - they've had it on their lot since Dec 3rd. State shows title transfer back to the dealer on the 1st - my guess is the previous owner came in and said give me my $$ back or I'll invoke the lemon law and make you give it back.
I'm going to take the offer @ 29K w/ 2 conditions. (They said ok to these a few minutes ago) They need to note the concerns so that if they come up again within 90days I can get a repair & a loaner truck for free (no
deductable or cost to me) and I'm going to ask that they let me drive it for 7days w/ a no questions asked return policy. They have a normal 3 day policy anyway so adding 4 to that shouldn't be a big deal. I'll put enough miles on it in a week to know if they fixed it based on the OASIS it looks like the prev owner only went 600-800 miles btw visits. I'll put about 500-600 on it the 1st week.
Just hope I don't get stranded on my trip. I'm going to pick it up tonight. This is wild - this is less than what I paid for my 2003 F350!!
DG
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The diesel guy at our local dealer (32 years on diesels motors) when asked, recommended we not use straight synthetic oil in the 6.4's. Think I will go with his and Ford's recommendations in the use of oil.
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