More info on the HPOP:

http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articl...icle-07-08.php

http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articl...icle-05-17.php

http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articl...icle-06-10.php

 

Wow, so many issues, like every one suggested check your state laws, it is a LEMON. 6.0 had issues but ...

 

definately sounds like a fuel problem..the fuel heater in the HFCM (drivers side framerail) was determined to be about useless...they would cause false WIF lights due to corrosion.. Ford recommended removal/disconnection of the fuel heater...

HPOP might be a concern, but not as common on 04 motors (you should have an 04 motor.. leftover previous M/Y SD truck engines went into X's and vans)..you can see the engine sticker at the back of the passenger side valve cover..

bottom line is that the 6.0l is hard to troubleshoot on a forum...some problems are very cause specific....others, like this latest one of yours, need a professional tech..hope you get it resolved...keep us posted...

 

I know for sure it was not a fuel problem. We had a GOOD OL 02 diesel Excursion with us filled up at the same station and nozzle as the 05. If it was a fuel/water problem the 02 should have failed first. In fact it rescued us twice when it failed the second time too. Only problem was that it was about a hour away at the first break down. In addition I am/was a Diesel mechanic left the field a few years back and became a Firefighter.
I have been driving and working on diesels for 26 years including heavy truck. I take care of my vehicles and don't drive them hard (maybe I should drive this 05 like I stole it). Three weeks prior to this failure I change ALL filters with an oil change. I look over all of my equipment including the sleds because the LAST thing I want to do BREAK DOWN. This is the first time I have ever been stranded.

This 05 Excursion is driving me crazy in fact the drivers side arm rest just fell off today. I never use the arm rest. What next?
Unfortunately I am not as familiar with the 6.0 as I would like to be then maybe I don't with all of the problems that I have researched.

When it did fail with my experience it felt just like it was dropping at least two cylinders. I could not look at the exhaust color due to traffic and the 24 foot trailer plus it was dark. Has anyone herd of the 6.0 injectors intermittently failing?

I would live to keep this truck but with the numerous failures and with only 28,000 miles I have no faith in it. It is one of those love/ hate relationships.

Thank you to all that have replyed and If any one can convince me to keep it I am open for discussion.
Jeff

 

Is there a number that I can call you to discuss the problems? As stated I have a strong mechanical/electrical back ground. Jeff

 

Injectors can leak and ultimately fail.

I think you need to bring your truck to another dealer for a checkup.

 

Looks like Monsta beat me to it, nuff said.

 

Have you had the recall #05V270000 done by the dealer. Looked up recalls and TSB located in the header section of this board. Just thought it sounded like it would solve some maybe all of your driveability problems. There is also a # for ford if you wish to contact them.

 

I had a few 'lack of attention to detail' issues on my 08/05 build Exc. that I attributed to lack of interest on the assy line by soon to be displaced Ford employees. These items aren't even issues with the 6.0L which I'm a little apprehensive about as the miles roll on. My '00 V10 had nothing near the kind of piddly things wrong as the '05. Both vehicles were purchased new.

There are 'Lemons', the Friday/ Monday builds, or built 'when the stars aligned/misaligned'. Problem with lemon- lawing an Exc. is that they ain't no mo.

Sorry to hear of your woes. I plan to keep mine as long as I can stand. It suits my needs perfectly, towing the trailer and hauling the family. Good luck on your decision with yours.

Take Care

 

Hey Jeff,

i'm not saying a fuel quality problem...sounds like it's being fuel starved...filters should be good...then there's the PCM, FICM, ICP, IPR, HPOP, HFCM, and injectors to throw in the "get fuel into the motor mix"(did I forget anything guys?)...All these different componants are what make long distance diagnosis of some problems so hard to figure out..There's always the EGR/ turbo/ intake system too with it's assortment of sensors and such..The 6.0l is much more than a fuel pump, block, and turbo.. Thanks EPA...

A good tech can get it figured out...I've had many troubles with my truck in the past too...I still wouldn't trade it for anything else out there..

 

First, I would like thank you all for the valuable input. I got he truck from the dealer last week. They found cylinders #3&8 "acting funny". They installed two injectors and FICM. My son took it to Maryland and back two days later. I'll be damned he made it back with out a problem. He said he hand calculated 16.8mpg not as good as my 02 7.3 but al least it didn't break down.
I have to b*tch out the Ford tomorrow they dealer. They just fixed my arm rest last month and it broke again.

Just a note another Ford dealer Fixed the drivability concern. After this re-repair I will not return for service again to this dealer

I will keep everyone posted and cross my fingers hoping I can keep it out of the shop next month.

Jeff

 

You might want to find a Ford Truck dealer. They will only work on trucks and mostly ones with diesels.

When I had turbo problems with mine, I brought mine to a local ford truck dealer. They fixed it right the first time and I have been problem free for over 14 months now.

 

A couple of years ago, I was in the market for an Ex. Wanna a V10? No problem. Several to choose from. Diesel 6.0? Not as much but if you don't mind driving say 50 miles, you have a few to choose from. 7.3 Diesel? You willing to go 600 miles and you can have a huge selection of "1". Dealerships were trying to push the 6.0 on me. It was newer, better, etc, etc. My question is why 7.3s were so hard to come by? Oh, the owners don't want to let go of them and are driving them into the ground. So why are 6.0s so plentiful? Well the owners are trading up. Wait a minute. This is Jan 06 and they are getting rid of their 03s and 04s?????

 

To all that have been following the ever trouble ridden 05 diesel Excursion. I have just nervously returned from a Spring Break trip from Westland MI to Panama City FL with my daughters and five of their friends. Believe it or not NO issues not a hicup. It performed as it should have. I hope that maybe the evil spirits have been evicted. Maybe it was due to the fact that I had my brothers GM discount info in the truck with me in case.

I had installed prior to leaving a SS Magna Flow 4" turbo back, Superchips Flash Paq latest upgrade and a S&B filter. I got 16mpg at 73 mph. The truck turned into a rocket but I am very very disappointed in the fuel mileage.

To all of you 6.0 Diesel guys especially Excursions(6.0) what kind of mileage are you getting? Any suggestion other than going 45mph? I drive normal no jack rabbit starts.
Maybe I am spoiled from my 7.3?

Thanks again this is an awsome site for comments and info.

 

The 6.0 is smarter and more complicated than a 7.3. On a 7.3 the only thing that ever did any learning was the transmission. From what I've read and understand the 6.0 was built from the ground up and does more learning than anything else before it. When the engine is first programmed, it's supposed to sit and idle for a determined amount of time for everything in the engine, FICM, and PCM to understand each other, their surroundings, and get a baseline for engine performance. If you just flash or re-flash it then take off, you'll have a whole world of problems since the PCM and FICM doesn't have a basic understanding of engine and how to respond to certain situations. Where am I going with this? Your 6.0 just has to adjust to it's new found power; it will adjust and adapt better than a 7.3, but just needs time. Since you also had some injectors replaced, they also have to break in and catch up to the original 6. After a good amount of driving, things will even out and you'll love your truck. Glad you can finally enjoy your truck!