Long crank times
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Long crank times
My truck has been taking a long time to turn over the past few days, there is quite a bit of corrosion on the battery terminals that I'm going to clean up while I'm working under the hood this weekend. I do have at least 1 bad GP as well, that project is on the "awaiting funding" list right now. Anything else that might be the culprit?
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Ever replaced the starter? They don't last forever. If the batteries load test good, and you get the terminals squeaky clean, one bad GP is not going to slow down your starting ability all that much, whereas a worn out starter will. I am speaking from been there done that.
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Mark- no. I just bought the truck 2 weeks ago tomorrow. It did fine for the first week, then the past few days I noticed much longer crank times. If/when I get it back together I'll see what shakes out, hopefully the starter is okay because I imagine that bugger doesn't come cheap.
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Has the weather been different over the last few days? Does the truck take longer to crank when it's warmed up too, or just when it's cold? How old are the batteries?
I agree with Mark on one bad glow plug not being enough to make a difference. Have you tested the GPR to make sure you have power on both sides of the relay?
I agree with Mark on one bad glow plug not being enough to make a difference. Have you tested the GPR to make sure you have power on both sides of the relay?
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Originally Posted by superduty4x4
there is quite a bit of corrosion on the battery terminals that I'm going to clean up while I'm working under the hood this weekend.
Mark and Chris might be onto some other problems you might be having, but its amazing how just a single corroded post can cause you some problems.
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Chris- temp doesn't seem to affect it, both batts appear to be fairly old, possibly original to the truck. GPR not tested- I need to buy a multimeter (is there another way to test it, and where do I find it? I'm new to the PSD, don't laugh! 
) Both batt's will be cleaned up and grease applied to keep the corrosion from persisting, hopefully tomorrow. Once I get it back together I'll keep everyone updated.
I've only had this truck two weeks (tomorrow) and I've already spent $500 more on it than I spent on my old truck in nearly 5 years of owning it- NO MORE PARTS ARE ALLOWED TO FAIL! (okay, so most of the $ spent was on exhaust and gauges, but it needed those...)
) Both batt's will be cleaned up and grease applied to keep the corrosion from persisting, hopefully tomorrow. Once I get it back together I'll keep everyone updated.I've only had this truck two weeks (tomorrow) and I've already spent $500 more on it than I spent on my old truck in nearly 5 years of owning it- NO MORE PARTS ARE ALLOWED TO FAIL!
(okay, so most of the $ spent was on exhaust and gauges, but it needed those...)
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Originally Posted by superduty4x4
(is there another way to test it, and where do I find it? I'm new to the PSD, don't laugh! )
)Next time you go out to start the truck, and it doesn't want to start for ya, grab a helper. Have them hold a screwdriver (one with a plastic handle) over the two large posts of the GPR. If this relay isn't working, the screwdriver will allow power to move through to your GP's..and the truck will start like magic.
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Originally Posted by Smokin'
Chris is probably onto something with the old batteries.
Next time you go out to start the truck, and it doesn't want to start for ya, grab a helper. Have them hold a screwdriver (one with a plastic handle) over the two large posts of the GPR. If this relay isn't working, the screwdriver will allow power to move through to your GP's..and the truck will start like magic.
Next time you go out to start the truck, and it doesn't want to start for ya, grab a helper. Have them hold a screwdriver (one with a plastic handle) over the two large posts of the GPR. If this relay isn't working, the screwdriver will allow power to move through to your GP's..and the truck will start like magic.
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Originally Posted by superduty4x4
It starts fine, but cranks a bit longer than normal. Where is the GPR so I can try this out though?
BUT..hard starts could point to a malfunctioning GPR, which means your fuel isn't getting sufficently heated for starting. If you want to test your GPR, you can try to jump it with a screwdriver. IF the truck starts easily after you arc the two large posts on the relay, then that will signal that you have a problem there.
The GPR is basically a starter relay. It has 4 posts, two large and two smaller auxillary posts. Yours will probably be made out of brown plastic. It sits just behind the fuel filter on the top of the motor. Someone on here posted a great picture of the GPR a few days ago, with labels and everything and I just can't seem to find it.
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Lisa has the right idea. Here's a pic of the GPR from standing by the drivers side front fender. You can see the round fuel filter bowl in the pic. The slightly larger relay next to it is the AIH which I don't believe they had on the 99 models so feel free to ignore that one.
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