Timing ?'s I'm retarded
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Timing ?'s I'm retarded
'85 Bronc, 300 6, Durapark ignition. I have good blue spark, new wires, plugs, cap and rotor are good. I just went through a nightmare with my duraspark swap. I can't seem to get the truck to fire up. I have fuel, I have spark. At first, I was getting good loud repetitive pops out the exhaust only. I thought it was 180* out. So I switched it. Now I have good crank, although it slows a little when the distributor is turned a little too far, but no pops or anything from intake or exhaust. I am assuming that turning the distributor clockwise advances the timing, since that is the way the rotor spins- and the way the motor slows when cranking if turned too far clockwise. Maybe it wasn't 180* out the first time? Any input please holler, I am stumped. I may be trying to overthink this at this point, but it is kicking my @$$.
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Sometimes you have to turn the dizzy while it's cranking to find a good spot for it to run. You can install it right, but be too far off for it to catch, and if you play with it you can get it closer to where it needs to be so it can catch and run.
You can use a compression tester to figure out when you're close to TDC on #1. That will eliminate any doubt of whether you're 180 out or not.
You can use a compression tester to figure out when you're close to TDC on #1. That will eliminate any doubt of whether you're 180 out or not.
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You can also put your finger over the spark plug hole while somebody turns the crank with a breaker bar. When you start to feel air coming out, it's on its way up to TDC. Put a drinking straw in the hole and you can feel the top of the piston so you'll know it's at the top. Then install the dizzy with the button pointing to the #1 terminal.
Sorry, I can't remember which way it goes.
Sorry, I can't remember which way it goes.
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Yes sir, we checked to see where the piston was with a piece of stiff wire, but didn't try the finger over the hole trick. I have redropped the diz about 4 times now and no matter what I do, I can't even get it to pop. I keep checking to make sure I've got fire, and I do. I am putting it on TDC with the diz at number one, and try it in increments, both ways, and I get nothing, no pop or anything. put the diz in 180* out, same thing. This is irritating because I keep checking for fuel and spark everytime I change it around. I'm out to the garage for more punishment!
OK Scratch that- now were at a fuel prob. This is ridiculous.
OK Scratch that- now were at a fuel prob. This is ridiculous.
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Turning the distributor OPPOSITE the direction of the rotor advances the timing. If you turn in the same direction you are retarding the timing.
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Originally Posted by jas88
Turning the distributor OPPOSITE the direction of the rotor advances the timing. If you turn in the same direction you are retarding the timing.
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Where we stand now is this- can't time it till we get fuel. I removed the fuel supply line from the carb as I did a valve cover gasket, and painted the valve cover while it was off. Line might have been off for two hours at most. Apparently the fuel drained back and is being a real pain to keep up to the carb (weak pump?). So now that the wife is home, I'll have her blow some air into the tank while I crank and we'll get the fuel back up where we need it and try it again, from scratch I guess. As I said, I don't even remember how many times I have changed it back and forth to 180 out and back so We may have to do this a few times. I'll keep yall posted though.
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Ok now I'm ready- seriously- to take a ball bat or a pipe to this truck.
How will the truck act if it is exactly 180 out? I got nada, crap, zilch, zero, nothing.
I get spark, fuel sh**s out.
I get fuel, spark sh**s out.
Get pissed, come inside.
Not even 5 min. later, spark is there.
I GIVE UP!
How will the truck act if it is exactly 180 out? I got nada, crap, zilch, zero, nothing.
I get spark, fuel sh**s out.
I get fuel, spark sh**s out.
Get pissed, come inside.
Not even 5 min. later, spark is there.
I GIVE UP!
