4 liter engine swap
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4 liter engine swap
I am just wondering if anyone has put a 4.o in a F1. Iam thinking of doing it and I really havn't heard of anyone Putting a ford V6 in our old trucks. I,m not sure of the trans that I would use but am thinking of an automatic with overdrive. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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i really cant see it posing to much of a problem other than all the electronics required . most modern 4 poppers make more power and torque than my flatty so i think it'd pull her around with a good deal of pep . i havent seen one here i can recall but i beleive it was fomoko who's got a buddy who put a newer 4 popper in one , and mech has a mercedes deisel in his , all sorts of crazy stuff including the oh so common and boring s.b.c.
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What I Was Thinking of was a 4 liter V6 from a Ranger. I am driving the Ranger now but the body is in pretty ruff shape so I'm thinking of puting the engine in my '51. Thanks for the input this a great site.
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yep i knew which one you were talking about . the only problem i have had with those v-6 fords outside of the original 2.9 is that they seem to like to pop head gaskets and eat theirselves up in the process . had two of the 3.8's and i wouldnt wish one of 'em on my worst enemy !! put some pics up and especially once ya start the swap .!!!!! we like pics here !!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by 55 f350
yep i knew which one you were talking about . the only problem i have had with those v-6 fords outside of the original 2.9 is that they seem to like to pop head gaskets and eat theirselves up in the process . had two of the 3.8's and i wouldnt wish one of 'em on my worst enemy !! put some pics up and especially once ya start the swap .!!!!! we like pics here !!!!!!!!!!!
I had a 2.9 stick originally in my 90 ranger extended cab 4WD that either took out a head gasket or cracked a head. IMHO it was gutless, had 160,000 miles on it so I never dug into the engine, instead I found a 60,000 mile 4.0 automatic and I swapped out the entire engine/trans/computer/all forward harnesses, etc, etc. I ran the truck up to 240,000 with no further issues. I have not personnally had a 4.0 engine problem. Were the head gasket problems in the early or now the late 4.0? A second question: Are the 2.9's and the 4.0 the same block?
My current daily is a 2003 4.0 extended 4wd Ranger. I do not see any issue with the amount of power in the 4.0 since my Ranger weighs more than my 49 F-1.
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Someone here is putting a V-6 from a Taurus SHO in his truck. Has turned it 90* (originally mounted crosswise in the FWD T.) and adapted a RWD tranny.
Yes the 3.8's had some serious problems, I have an imaculate '94 T. sitting in my backyard with it's second set of blown head gaskets.
Yes the 3.8's had some serious problems, I have an imaculate '94 T. sitting in my backyard with it's second set of blown head gaskets.
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weird i never had an issue with the early 2.9's . had a couple in pinto's mustang 2's and an 85 ranger . never any problems other than normal wear items . the 3.8 and the 4.0's i've had obvious problems with and my buddy tj has had several issues with 4.0 in his wifes explorer . might just be us ... who knows !!! how is it not the right forum sanford's wanting to put one in his f-1 so it's definetley relevant . as far as power i agree it should pull the ol' girl quite well , probably get decent economy to boot . p.s old green i took said 85 ranger long bed and used a kit sold by total performance i think it was , and put a stock 429 out of a parts 70 tbird i had for my 70 .... it was fun !!!!!!!!! till i ate the diff !!!!!!!
p.s old green i took said 85 ranger long bed and used a kit sold by total performance i think it was , and put a stock 429 out of a parts 70 tbird i had for my 70 .... it was fun !!!!!!!!! till i ate the diff !!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by 55 f350
i really cant see it posing to much of a problem other than all the electronics required . most modern 4 poppers make more power and torque than my flatty so i think it'd pull her around with a good deal of pep . i havent seen one here i can recall but i beleive it was fomoko who's got a buddy who put a newer 4 popper in one , and mech has a mercedes deisel in his , all sorts of crazy stuff including the oh so common and boring s.b.c.
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I was kind of thinkin about a swap like this myself? Only I was goin to use the whole truck (frame and all) I was wonderin how much power the 4.0 V6's have and how well they run? When did they come out? I'd love to find a 2wd 4.0 5speed rollover or similar to use for a "donor" There's a local junkyard that I get my parts from. He's keepin an eye out for me one. Keep us posted !!
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This is what Kelly did, he bought a wrecked Ranger that gave him most of the needed parts. The 2.3 was a decent enough mover when I went for a ride in it cross town and he used it to commute 35 miles daily to work.
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staying carbed, one could put a 2.8 v6 from an 80's ranger or Bro. II in it. Going EFI, IMO, I'd go with a 4.0 over the 2.9 anyday. That said, earlier 90's Tbirds had a 3.8 supercharged v6 (supercoupe), and there's always the 2.3T that someone a while back had wanted to put in his truck. Electronics and emissions will be the major piece of work. A bit off topic, but what I'd like to see is a VW TDI (that in the cars, gets 50+ mpg) in one, and see how it goes. I wouldn't do it myself, unless it works, lol.
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truxx i got a cousin who has a 4wd explorer that just ate either the tranny or rear diff . i can ask paulie about it as he said something about parting it , if he hasn't already scrapped it . he drove it daily with no issues till now .... i beleive it was a 4.0 ....
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The 4.0's are a pretty decent V6 and are generally reliable. My old ext. cab 4x4 had over 400 000 kms last time I saw it.(I sold it to a friend)
I never touched it other than the rear main seal, valve cover gaskets and plugs.
I believe they were rated at 160 hp and 220 ftlbs torque.
The automatic overdrives didn't always do so well in the Explorers but seemed to live just fine in the Rangers. (May have been the additional weight)
I never touched it other than the rear main seal, valve cover gaskets and plugs.
I believe they were rated at 160 hp and 220 ftlbs torque.
The automatic overdrives didn't always do so well in the Explorers but seemed to live just fine in the Rangers. (May have been the additional weight)