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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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Does anybody care to explain why or how 4 link suspensions work? Ive been surfing around the internet and done alot of searching on another forum, and i keep finding lame write ups and no pics to go along with anything. Whats written is hard to understand with out a pic.

So does anybody care to enlighten me on how 4 links work?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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I'm no genious when it comes to this, but basically a 4 link has 4 links to control the loads placed on the axle during acceleration and braking, and they are a much smarter suspension set up than stacked blocks and bannana springs, but 4 links are hard to create propper roll understeer and anti squat.
Then there're 3 Links which are very flexible and have infinite ways to set up, but 3 links have no lateral location control.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:44 PM
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With a four link, it controls the pinion angle and axle location through 4 solid links, that are separated vertically and horizontally. The vertical separation controls the rotation of the axle throughout its range of movement, and the horizontal separation and triangulation controls the axles movement from side to side.
They way they are set up, is the lower links are longer to make the axle rotate slightly through its movement to keep the pinion angle correct.
I'm sure someone will have some more insight and critique on what I said.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:44 PM
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I retract this statement.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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wtf... I now retract this statement
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:48 PM
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i think somone wants more posts! j/k
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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nah, it wasn't that. I had 2 pages of this thread open somehow and I toggled between them, and didn't see all the posts in one of them.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:52 PM
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I hate when that happens, luckily ive been able to catch my self before i made a post.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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wtf... I now retract this statement
My retracted statement was ment as a joke toward Nick since he actually has done 4 link, and I just felt like putting something. lol
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 12:00 AM
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makes since, i guess,

Nick, care to pitch in on this, as i am still confused but less so than when i started out! Personal expierence would be good!
 
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Well when I looked at the thread the first time after I posted, I thought I had beat ya to it. So I put "beat ya to it haha", but then I saw I hadn't, and had to change it..... 10 posts in this thread and only 2 were of anything good lol. Nice.
 
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Originally Posted by chrono4
Well when I looked at the thread the first time after I posted, I thought I had beat ya to it. So I put "beat ya to it haha", but then I saw I hadn't, and had to change it..... 10 posts in this thread and only 2 were of anything good lol. Nice.
yes i know

maybe more info... somebody, as i am still stumped by this 4 link stuff.
 
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Andrew gave a really good explination of how the 4 individual bars work, however there are other part to the puzzle that need to be there for a proper 4 link suspension to work. After the 4 link bars, is the panhard bar which locates the axle in the frame from left to right. This is the same setup as an 70's F-150 front track bar, so if you understand how that works and why it's there, then we can move on. After the panhard bar, is the shocks. Here is where you will usually see coilovers, though it is not unheard of in the offroad and cruiser world to use airbags. The coilovers (or bags) will set the rebound and dampening of the suspenion as well as set the ride height of the vehicle. For drag racing and street use, a shock with a somewhat short travel is used, for off roading (like rock crawling) this is where you see the long travel, remote reservior shocks (like Fox shocks as an example). Lastly as an option in the asphault drag racing world, they put an extra bracing bar between the lower link bars to help support and strengthen the bars from the latteral stress that is places on them when power is applied through the drivetrain.

I hope i didn't confues you, just giving a little more info to your questions.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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depends on which type of 4 link........parallel 4link w/ panhard, single trainglulated 4link, or double triangulated 4link.....
 
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kjett
Andrew gave a really good explination of how the 4 individual bars work, however there are other part to the puzzle that need to be there for a proper 4 link suspension to work. After the 4 link bars, is the panhard bar which locates the axle in the frame from left to right. This is the same setup as an 70's F-150 front track bar, so if you understand how that works and why it's there, then we can move on. After the panhard bar, is the shocks. Here is where you will usually see coilovers, though it is not unheard of in the offroad and cruiser world to use airbags. The coilovers (or bags) will set the rebound and dampening of the suspenion as well as set the ride height of the vehicle. For drag racing and street use, a shock with a somewhat short travel is used, for off roading (like rock crawling) this is where you see the long travel, remote reservior shocks (like Fox shocks as an example). Lastly as an option in the asphault drag racing world, they put an extra bracing bar between the lower link bars to help support and strengthen the bars from the latteral stress that is places on them when power is applied through the drivetrain.

I hope i didn't confues you, just giving a little more info to your questions.
good explanation, but coils/coilovers/bags have very little to do on how a 4link works.....but has everthing to do on how they perform.....
 
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