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Lets take everyone from all the diesel forums and head to washington to protest!!! Park about a 1000 super duties in front of the white house and tell em we aint moving till we see some relief. It may not work, but atleast we would get a good meet and greet in!!! Ill bring the hotdogs
Yeah, lets get the government involved. They will know how to help us out. Maybe they will start building the new refineries and manning the drilling rigs themselves........heck some of them are probably asme code certified welders as well, and could start laying several new pipelines to unlock "market traped" energy. You might think they could just turn some crude loose from the stratigic reserves, but for some reason under the clinton administration, the government decided we needed to sell one to the private sector. Weak dollar, high demand for crude from the global economy (china, india and some of the stan countries) lack of modernized and under capacity refineries, take your pick, they all have an effect as to why we pay what we pay.
And to correct JiminCa, Marathon, Garyville was the last grass roots refinery built. 1976. Gulf, Aliance was the last single train grass roots refinery built, also in 76. Several other refineries were actually built later, but not as entire new projects. Basis, Krotz Springs was started up in 80, I believe Sun comissioned one in 83 as well, but they were built on existing sites or "vastly expanded".
The statement about Chavez is not entirely true however. He controls PDVsA which owns Citgo. Citgo would vastly benifit from oil being cheaper, which would increase their profit margin. Citgo only refines and markets in this country, they produce no crude or natural gas. Valero is another company that produces very little. They (Valero) are the largest refiner in the country with ConocoPhillips in the #2 spot. ConocoPhillips is a producer, but do to the size of throughput of their refining network, they do not produce nowhere close to the BOE they refine per day.
The competition aspect really hurts the margins themselves when it comes to refining. In just the refining sector we no longer have Premcor, Basis, Mobil, Tenneco, Sohio, Unocal, Arco, Texaco, Getty, Gulf, Pan American, Amoco, Phillips, Pennzoil, Quaker State, and probably some others I missed. You now have Valero, BP, Shell, Motiva, ExxonMobil, and Chevron.
Ok BIG change this evening on the way home in Wake Forest, NC!! Earlier today I stated that diesel was still at $3.659 where it has stayed for the last couple of days. Well on the way home I about ran off the road when I saw are you sitting down?? Diesel is now $3.999 ! Oh by the way gas JUMPED too from $3.119 to $ 3.219!! Holy crap are we in for a long ride now!!!!
how is it that, we get all these excuses for gas being so high and oil companies are recording record profits? I think were getting screwed here. Now if everybody in the u.s. didnt buy a single drop of oil, gas or diesel, for just 1 day i gurantee gas would drop. now imagine that for a week.
if they dropped the gas prices to 1$ or less then a gallon they would sell so much the gas stations would run dry so they would end up making more money then now since people are avoiding the gas stations like the plague now.
So I ask.....at what price is it REALLY going to start affecting your life?? I mean to the point where you literally can't afford to do anything more than drive to work and out to get the necessities. Everyone panicked when it hit $3.....now we're approaching $4.....and you know prices will rise into the summer, so is $5 unrealistic?
Anyone else think something major is about to happen....soon???
well i dont have a car payment so i can afford for it to get quite a bit higher, although i would not like to see it get any higher. what your willing to pay and what you can AFFORD to pay are allot different.
I cant afford to drive anywhere I don't NEED to right now and its 3.59 here and if no one but fule for a day they would just sell that much more the next day and they would never notice. They know we need it so they're gonna charge as much as they can for it thats what happens when companies care more about money than the fact they are cripling a country.
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