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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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identifying an FE or FT, casting numbers inside

i just brought home a 77 f250. i started the engine to see if it ran or not, just for giggles. it did. i got looking at it and it didn't have the FE valve covers i was used to. the ones i always see have the rounded tops. these ones were flat, similar to 460 valve covers. i KNOW the engine is an FE of some sort. i found some older FE's later with the same valve covers. i have a block casting of C7ME , i can't see if it has an A after it or not. the intake appears to read C9TE-9425A and below it i thought it read 3D25, but i don't think thats right. i am going to wire brush the the numbers a little better. the intake had numbers starting with D8 i believe. so this stuff was implanted and someone used what they had. any ideas on what engine i have? i am going to try and find some more casting numbers tomorrow. i will see if i can get the head casting number. any other numbers i should get? and if so where do i find them. i don't want to take the engine our and tear it down to find out what it is. i am thinking of doing the spark plug hole stroke test to see what i get. i am also going to check the flywheel for a counterbalance and see if there is one or not. that will lead me off in one direction or the other. i found info on another site that said it could be a 330, or possibly 361/391? do any of these engines have an imbalance on the flywheel? any help is greatly appreciated. i bought some ford parts trucks and i am trying to identify anything i don't already know what it is. i also recieved what i was told was a 410 engine. i haven't brough it home yet but its going to get the pan pulled on it when i do. is there a place to find all the crank casting codes when i get them? i have found alot in the posts on this site and others. thanks
 
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 06:49 AM
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Dog, Hate to tell ya, but the FE was dropped in 76, 77s came with 351/400Ms



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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 07:07 AM
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i just brought home a 77 f250. i started the engine to see if it ran or not, just for giggles. it did. i got looking at it and it didn't have the FE valve covers i was used to. the ones i always see have the rounded tops. these ones were flat, similar to 460 valve covers. i KNOW the engine is an FE of some sort. i found some older FE's later with the same valve covers. i have a block casting of C7ME , i can't see if it has an A after it or not. the intake appears to read C9TE-9425A and below it i thought it read 3D25, but i don't think thats right. i am going to wire brush the the numbers a little better. the intake had numbers starting with D8 i believe. so this stuff was implanted and someone used what they had. any ideas on what engine i have? i am going to try and find some more casting numbers tomorrow. i will see if i can get the head casting number. any other numbers i should get? and if so where do i find them. i don't want to take the engine our and tear it down to find out what it is. i am thinking of doing the spark plug hole stroke test to see what i get. i am also going to check the flywheel for a counterbalance and see if there is one or not. that will lead me off in one direction or the other. i found info on another site that said it could be a 330, or possibly 361/391? do any of these engines have an imbalance on the flywheel? any help is greatly appreciated. i bought some ford parts trucks and i am trying to identify anything i don't already know what it is. i also recieved what i was told was a 410 engine. i haven't brough it home yet but its going to get the pan pulled on it when i do. is there a place to find all the crank casting codes when i get them? i have found alot in the posts on this site and others. thanks
FE Rounded valve covers = the same left and right, no oil cap holes = 1958/64 ONLY.

When these covers are present, the engine has an oil fill tube.

FE Pent roof...aka wedge shaped valve covers used 1965/76. These valve covers have provisions for oil caps.

C7ME = 1967 block casting number for an raw, unfinished bare block.

It could be a 390, it could be a 410, it might even be a 428...but it's NOT an FT engine.

FE engine = 5 valve cover bolt holes / 351M/400 = 8 valve cover bolt holes.

As John said above, 1977's didn't come with FE engines, so it's prolly a 1976.

Post the VIN number.

btw: Casting numbers cannot be translated to actual Ford part numbers.

What you bought is obviously a Frankenstein monster, with parts used from whatever. You won't find any casting numbers from D7 or later on an FE engine. Last FE engine = D6 = 1976.

352/360 / 390 / 410/428 flywheels have a unique Ford engineering number stamped on them.

Examples: 352/360 = C5AE-6380-J / 390 = C5AE-6380-K / 410/428 = C6AE-6380-B.

The above doesn't tell you what size the engine really is, but it's a start.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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thanks for the info guys. i have owned alot of fords since i was 15, and my father has owned fords for 40+ years. we own a small salvage yard. i know the FE was dropped in 76, and the 351m / 400 came out after that. i have 20+ parts fords right now, but i have never seen the flat topped valve covers on an FE. almost every ford i have ever driven had a 360 or 390 in it. the truck is a frankenstein. the engine has a power steering pump all mounted up on it, and the truck is manual steering. the registration sticker says 1977 ford. i didn't investigate the door tag because i didn't care what the truck was. i have to check the exhaust manifolds to see the casting numbers, i may have been wrong on what i thought i saw. i know what the FE exhaust manifolds look like so i know that its an FE. i had to change plenty of those threwout the years. i'm going to check the flywheel castings and some other castings and i'll post those. that will get things rolling. thanks for the help guys.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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revised casting numbers

ok i did a little cleaning and got these casting numbers:

block: C7ME-A can't get under enough to get the date code yet.
intake: C8TE 9425A date code 25
manifolds : D2VE , and D2TE
vin number: F26YCQ85703

i messed up on the year. the registration sticker says 1973, and the door jamb sticker says 1977. so the cab was changed and the still had it registered with the '73 vin. the chassis is a 3/4 ton with 3 inch blocks in the back. its what everyone refers to as the factory highboy chassis, even though i have some read some posts on here that there is no such thing as a highboy or whatever. i don't want to debate that part at all. its a 3/4 ton truck. its a junk parts truck to me and i am just trying to find out what engine it is.

it appears the manifolds may be correct or close to it for the actual truck as it left the factory with D2 codes right? i didn't see any imbalance cast into the flywheel, so its not a 428. i guess i am going to assume its a 390 maybe?
is the C7ME-A casting something that is popular at all? is it worth anything to anyone, or is it just another FE block? i have also read you can find the 428 inside the center plug on a non 428 engine. if thats is true, what does it mean? can those blocks be bored to a 428 size without a problem? if so i would assume that makes the block a little more worth having. its still in the truck and i don't feel like pulling it out right now, i am keeping the whole truck for parts for a while.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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i also happened to find a vin decoder, and i see my truck was a canadian built truck with a 360 2bbl in it.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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franken-truck

i also happened to find a vin decoder, and i see my truck was a canadian built truck with a 360 2bbl in it.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by junkyarddog82
ok i did a little cleaning and got these casting numbers:

block: C7ME-A can't get under enough to get the date code yet.
intake: C8TE 9425A date code 25
manifolds : D2VE and D2TE
vin number: F26YCQ85703
F26 = F250 4WD

Y = 360 2V

C = Ontario Canada Assembly Plant

Q85703 = 1973

A C8TE intake manifold is correct for 1973, as is the D2TE exhaust manifold.
A D2VE exhaust manifold is off a 1972/74 429/460 passenger car.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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Fe Dropped in late 76

Hi, Was looking at this and noticed it's a F250. I think Ford also only offered the 460 in F250's. Correct me if I'm wrong. (please).
Someone could have changed stuff. Put in a 390, using old frame plates.
Have a Great Day, Ray
 
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Hi again, I was refering to the late 76 and up. Ray
 
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 12:43 PM
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Could Ford have used a C8AE exhaust manifold on the Driver side? I own a 68 F250 and it appears original. Ramploc bolts on the Dr. Side, and it's a C8AE. Pass. Side is truck, I'm sure. Ray
 
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My book says block is a 428. You never know I have seem some goofy stuff with these engines, as the molds started to get old the would use just about any outer mold that was in good shape and the block would have standard cores. I have a regular 390 block with the 66-427 cast into the back, nothing special about it just late production and the 427 mold hadn't gotten as worn out as the standard mold so the used the on that was still in good shape.
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