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I know Im prababley thinking too far ahead of time but I dont care. My future plans for My restored 79 F150 (pics in gallary), instead of doing like most every one else does and do the 460 swap. I plan on swapping in a 428 backed by a ZF 5 speed.
This is because I dont want to be like everyone else and go the 400 or 460 route. I want to reive a good old FE. Currently I have a 351m and a C6 in the truck. I already know that new motor mounts, trans mounts, engine/trans adapter, shifter/clutch linkage, and many little time consuming things.
Since there is no adapter currently produced for the FE to ZF swap my only route leads me to build an adapter for the combo. I think the plans are fairly straight forward since I have access to a friend at a machine shop. I realize this is going to be some work and $$ but I already spent 2 years restoring the truck to my liking, so this will just be a minor speed bump.
Does anyone have any knowledge and or ideas, I would be more than thankful for your opinions.
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This is because I dont want to be like everyone else and go the 400 or 460 route. I want to reive a good old FE. Currently I have a 351m and a C6 in the truck. I already know that new motor mounts, trans mounts, engine/trans adapter, shifter/clutch linkage, and many little time consuming things.
Since there is no adapter currently produced for the FE to ZF swap my only route leads me to build an adapter for the combo. I think the plans are fairly straight forward since I have access to a friend at a machine shop. I realize this is going to be some work and $$ but I already spent 2 years restoring the truck to my liking, so this will just be a minor speed bump.
Does anyone have any knowledge and or ideas, I would be more than thankful for your opinions.
Thanks
NIck
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I really plan on doing this its just a big undertaking. Also it will be a big cool factor 428 and a 5 speed not many people have that combo.
I have thought about doing it in stages first rebuild the 428, make the adapter and run it on the c6. But then I would have to take the motor and trans back out to adapt it to the ZF. It would be simpler to just do it all at once.
I just need some ideas and opinions
I have thought about doing it in stages first rebuild the 428, make the adapter and run it on the c6. But then I would have to take the motor and trans back out to adapt it to the ZF. It would be simpler to just do it all at once.
I just need some ideas and opinions
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If the zf and a c6 transmission have the same bolt pattern you can buy the adapter.I have a 406fe i am putting a 89 mustang aod auto behind.The adapter is not the problem, the FLYWHEEL is the big problem,410and 428 fe engines are all by there self in the flywheel department. As for the mounts and assorted small parts, find a 73 -78 junk f150-f350 that had any fe engine and it is a simple bolt in.
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The ZF (460 bellhousing) and the c6 I have are the same bellhousing 351m, 400, and 460. I can make the adapter plate to bolt the two together.
The only trouble im seeing is getting the right flywheel/starter, that doesnt interfere with the balancing of the 428.
The only trouble im seeing is getting the right flywheel/starter, that doesnt interfere with the balancing of the 428.
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The ZF (460 bellhousing) and the c6 I have are the same bellhousing 351m, 400, and 460. I can make the adapter plate to bolt the two together.
The only trouble im seeing is getting the right flywheel/starter, that doesnt interfere with the balancing of the 428.
The only trouble im seeing is getting the right flywheel/starter, that doesnt interfere with the balancing of the 428.
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I planned on using a 460 flywheel and clutch components. I will just have to have the 428 internaly balanced. Im just not shure about the flywheel bolt patterns being the same.
The reason behind this because I dont have a 428 flywheel and clutch components, I only have a flex plate for it.
The reason behind this because I dont have a 428 flywheel and clutch components, I only have a flex plate for it.
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Do yourself a favor and at least consider NOT using the ZF. Fine trans, but adapting bell to engine is harder than trans to bell. Enter the NV4500, a stout unit of the 5 speed persuasion, which, with an adaptor, bolts to your FE Clutch bell, containing, of course, your FE correct works like a champ FE clutch assembly.
Details and hardware here, and I assume, other places but you'll figure that out.
http://www.high-impact.net/transmiss...sionsFordTruck
Details and hardware here, and I assume, other places but you'll figure that out.
http://www.high-impact.net/transmiss...sionsFordTruck
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I feel kind of stupid now, Thats very interesting I guess I just overlooked it because I was thinking about 5 speeds Ford used.
Definatly because the ZF has a unremovable bellhousing, adapting bell to trans is easier than engine to bell.
The biggest thing is, whats the overall length of the NV4500 compared to the length of the NP 435 and c6. Because I really dont want lengthen and shorten my drive shafts.
Also as I was told all Ford trans's and T cases have the same flange pattern and spline counts. What about the NV4500??
I emailed High-Impact to find out more info
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Definatly because the ZF has a unremovable bellhousing, adapting bell to trans is easier than engine to bell.
The biggest thing is, whats the overall length of the NV4500 compared to the length of the NP 435 and c6. Because I really dont want lengthen and shorten my drive shafts.
Also as I was told all Ford trans's and T cases have the same flange pattern and spline counts. What about the NV4500??
I emailed High-Impact to find out more info
Thanks
NIck
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If tou are going to balance the 428 anyway, you can get a flywheel for a 360-390 fe they are easy to find and that will solve the flywheel problem.If you are lucky enough to pull this swap off with out building a new drive shaft, you ought to find the state that has the largest lotto jackpot and buy a ticket.
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Sorry for my confusion about the lengths of the transmission lengths.
I see at bronco graveyard they sell the bell housing adapter plate for $220. And high-impact sells the T-case adapter and spud shaft for about $375. I have access to a machine shop I know I can fab the adapter plates for less than $600 and that just leaves out the spud shaft, which would have to be purchased.
I see at bronco graveyard they sell the bell housing adapter plate for $220. And high-impact sells the T-case adapter and spud shaft for about $375. I have access to a machine shop I know I can fab the adapter plates for less than $600 and that just leaves out the spud shaft, which would have to be purchased.
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