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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Hello,

I'm new to the forum. I have a 64 short bed that apparently came special ordered with a 5 on 5.5 Dana 60. I've posted pictures of it on the slick60s web site in my personal gallery under jbolivar if you'd like to take a look. It created quite a bit of discussion and drama on the forum. I hope you don't mind spending some time to answer a few questions? It seems here at fte that everyone respects your knowledge, etc. I'm make a daily driver street truck using a stock 4 barrel 71 Thunderjet 429 with D0VE-C heads and a C6. It's at a friend's shop and I haven't pulled the Dana cover off yet to see, but I'm hoping it's a powr lok. I was wondering if you had the ability to decifer the housing tag and numbers on the axle? The tag reads C4TA AK 2671 2 4 64 4:10, and the axle has stamped into it 4 21 4 A 415 4B1 2671. There is also a large 60 on the 3rd member. Is this an A or B body? Semi or full float (one better than the other)? Powr or trac loc? 30 spline? Good for street/drag racing? Does it really weigh 500 lbs? Thanks for any help. Jim
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Welcome to (FTE)!


Heres a link that is from 48-56 f1 forum, this may help some. You may also
find alot more if you do a search on the dana 60.





https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...hlight=DANA+60


http://www.drivetrain.com/Fordtrkratio_posidata.html




Wally Womack
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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jbolivar


Welcome to (FTE)!


Heres a link that is from 48-56 f1 forum, this may help some. You may also
find alot more if you do a search on the dana 60.





https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...hlight=DANA+60


http://www.drivetrain.com/Fordtrkratio_posidata.html




Wally Womack

Thanks for the help!
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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Glad to help out, I saw no one had an answer in 24 hours so I had a go at it!

heres a link that could help even more.


http://www.lightruck.com/axle_parts_rings.asp



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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jbolivar
Hello,

I'm new to the forum. I have a 64 short bed that apparently came special ordered with a 5 on 5.5 Dana 60. I've posted pictures of it on the slick60s web site in my personal gallery under jbolivar if you'd like to take a look. It created quite a bit of discussion and drama on the forum. I hope you don't mind spending some time to answer a few questions? It seems here at fte that everyone respects your knowledge, etc. I'm make a daily driver street truck using a stock 4 barrel 71 Thunderjet 429 with D0VE-C heads and a C6. It's at a friend's shop and I haven't pulled the Dana cover off yet to see, but I'm hoping it's a powr lok. I was wondering if you had the ability to decifer the housing tag and numbers on the axle? The tag reads C4TA AK 2671 2 4 64 4:10, and the axle has stamped into it 4 21 4 A 415 4B1 2671. There is also a large 60 on the 3rd member. Is this an A or B body? Semi or full float (one better than the other)? Powr or trac loc? 30 spline? Good for street/drag racing? Does it really weigh 500 lbs? Thanks for any help. Jim
Spicer-Dana 60's were optional on 1961/68 F100's. Very few ppl know that, so when someone sez they have one, the usual responses are: Ford never offered one for F100's. Uh huh...yeah, right.

C4TA-AK = Spicer (Dana) 60.2 / 4.10-1 / LIMITED SLIP

It's not a Traction-Lok...this is the old style clutch type LS first offered in 1959. It uses 10 clutch plates (6 lined, 4 steel). These were known as Equa-Loks back then.

Parts for these rear axles are hard to find and expensive. Some of the parts like wheel bearings and seals are different than what 8 lug 6.50 bolt pattern Spicer-Dana 60's use.

JMO: Considering what you want the axle to do, I'd replace it with a Ford 9 inch.

BTW: I'm one of the only FTE members with parts catalogs, and the only Ford partsman (except the two sponsors) on this site, so I'm rather busy.

You can email me direct off FTE if you need questions answered.

I don't always read thru all the forums....looking up part numbers is time consuming.

This is the first time I've read this thread, and I've been on FTE since 9PM last night (PST).
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 11:30 PM
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Spicer-Dana 60's were optional on 1961/68 F100's. Very few ppl know that, so when someone sez they have one, the usual responses are: Ford never offered one for F100's. Uh huh...yeah, right.

C4TA-AK = Spicer (Dana) 60.2 / 4.10-1 / LIMITED SLIP

It's not a Traction-Lok...this is the old style clutch type LS first offered in 1959. It uses 10 clutch plates (6 lined, 4 steel). These were known as Equa-Loks back then.

Parts for these rear axles are hard to find and expensive. Some of the parts like wheel bearings and seals are different than what 8 lug 6.50 bolt pattern Spicer-Dana 60's use.

JMO: Considering what you want the axle to do, I'd replace it with a Ford 9 inch.

BTW: I'm one of the only FTE members with parts catalogs, and the only Ford partsman (except the two sponsors) on this site, so I'm rather busy.

You can email me direct off FTE if you need questions answered.

I don't always read thru all the forums....looking up part numbers is time consuming.

This is the first time I've read this thread, and I've been on FTE since 9PM last night (PST).
Thank you very much for taking time to answer my questions and read through the postings. You must be very busy. I see a lot of people requesting your help. Some of this can be very confusing. I just posted some pictures to my personal gallery under jbolivar on the slick60s site, and called it a powr lok. To me, it looks just like what I've seen on the web. If you don't mind, at some point, would you take a look? I'd like to get it right. If it is an equa lok, why would you change over to a 9"? Thanks for any help, whenever you get time. Jim
 
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jbolivar
Thank you very much for taking time to answer my questions and read through the postings. You must be very busy. I see a lot of people requesting your help. Some of this can be very confusing. I just posted some pictures to my personal gallery under jbolivar on the slick60s site, and called it a powr lok. To me, it looks just like what I've seen on the web. If you don't mind, at some point, would you take a look? I'd like to get it right. If it is an equa lok, why would you change over to a 9"? Thanks for any help, whenever you get time. Jim
I would swap in a 9 because if you blow the 60, where are you going to find parts for it?

This is a 60.2, not a 60...so some of the internal parts (like axle shafts, seals, bearings) are different. Your rear axle is over 40 years old, some of the wear parts are close to crystalizing...snap an axle, where to find one?

When you do find the parts, the prices will be a stunner. The 9 was used behind all the hipo 406/427 Galaxies, Boss 302/351/429 Mustangs, Shelby GT500's and everything else performance wise, from 1957 thru the end of the HiPo era (circa 1973). Ford offered 9's with R&P's from 2.47-1 thru 5.57-1, so axle ratio options are many.

9 parts are easy to find, and is the best choice for any Ford...period.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 01:03 AM
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Can I e-mail you some pictures? I really think this is a powr-lok. Could be wrong. My e-mail is jbolivar@sps.lane.edu
 
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 01:10 AM
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Can I e-mail you some pictures? I really think this is a powr-lok. Could be wrong. My e-mail is jbolivar@sps.lane.edu
email sent...
 
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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email sent...
I guess I didn't receive your e-mail. If it's too much trouble, let me know. Not a problem jbolivar@sps.lane.edu
 
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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The 9 was used behind all the hipo 406/427 Galaxies, Boss 302/351/429 Mustangs, Shelby GT500's and everything else performance wise, from 1957 thru the end of the HiPo era (circa 1973). Ford offered 9's with R&P's from 2.47-1 thru 5.57-1, so axle ratio options are many.

9 parts are easy to find, and is the best choice for any Ford...period.
the 9" is also a favorite of drag racers,it will hold up to some hellacious HP
 
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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After taking a look at slick 60s web site, and doing my (HOME WORK) ive came
up with this, after going though all your rear end posts, two weeks ago you
labled one of your rearend pics " DANA 60.2 " and all the threads about this
"DANA 60.2" and it would seem to me you already had your answers.

http://www.blackbirdscustomtrucks.com/index5.html

P.S. I was feeling like this was a loaded dana 60.2 ? any extra credit?


Wally Womack
 
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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jbolivar


After taking a look at slick 60s web site, and doing my (HOME WORK) ive came
up with this, after going though all your rear end posts, two weeks ago you
labled one of your rearend pics " DANA 60.2 " and all the threads about this
"DANA 60.2" and it would seem to me you already had your answers.

http://www.blackbirdscustomtrucks.com/index5.html

P.S. I was feeling like this was a loaded dana 60.2 ? any extra credit?


Wally Womack
I e-mailed some pictures to a drivetrain company in Nevada. The person I spoke to was very knowledgeable. He said that what I had was a Dana 60.2, Powr-Lok, with 16 splines. I believe it's a B body. Pretty rare he said and very strong. For my purposes it will be just fine. Thanks for everyone's help. And again, if you want to see pictures, I have them posted on the slick60s web site under my membership name jbolivar. Click on my name and link to my personal gallery. You can also e-mail me at jbolivar@sps.lane.edu
 
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