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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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Two transmissions in line?

I am building sort of a cheap version of a skidder/forwarder and I'm thinking of putting two NM435's in line. Has anyone done this? I would be interested in any tips/cautions. Thanks
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PChiders
I am building sort of a cheap version of a skidder/forwarder and I'm thinking of putting two NM435's in line. Has anyone done this? I would be interested in any tips/cautions. Thanks
yes, swamp buggy's do it all the time.....but usually a auto, and then a manual so they can at least shift some.....
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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I figured the second tranny would be like a range selector but that I could still shift the first tranny through the gears? Or am I missing something?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by PChiders
I figured the second tranny would be like a range selector but that I could still shift the first tranny through the gears? Or am I missing something?
that would work just fine....i forgot your not 10' in the air.....makes it kind of hard to use shifters that way.....
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 12:13 AM
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Never thought of that, it woudl seem like it would work. Seems like it would work well with rock crawling rigs or similar. But i see it as having Overdrive a 1:1 ratio and everything else increasingly smaller.
Quad why would you do this on a swamp buggy, dont you want wheel speed, or is it to get those HUGE tires to turn in the first place?
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Truckin4life
Never thought of that, it woudl seem like it would work. Seems like it would work well with rock crawling rigs or similar. But i see it as having Overdrive a 1:1 ratio and everything else increasingly smaller.
theres not enough wheelbase to do this in your average rock crawler

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Quad why would you do this on a swamp buggy, dont you want wheel speed, or is it to get those HUGE tires to turn in the first place?
no, swamp buggy dont spin the tires, they just kinda putt.....
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 07:46 AM
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The more I think about it, the more I am leaning toward two transfer cases instead of two transmissions. I think the input shaft on the second transmission might not be able to take the torque of the the first tranny in granny-low. If I use divorced transfers it should be real easy to put two in-line behind the tranny (just cut-to-length shafts and mount them, I just have to get the front shaft from the last transfer past the first transfer ... I think I can just mount it tilted to one side ...) and I think they would better handle the torque ... right or no ?
I heard about a guy who put a standard in front of an auto; That might be better strength-wise. I think he removed the torque converter completely ...? I don't know alot about slush boxes.
What do you guys think?
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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The more I think about it, the more I am leaning toward two transfer cases instead of two transmissions. I think the input shaft on the second transmission might not be able to take the torque of the the first tranny in granny-low. If I use divorced transfers it should be real easy to put two in-line behind the tranny (just cut-to-length shafts and mount them, I just have to get the front shaft from the last transfer past the first transfer ... I think I can just mount it tilted to one side ...) and I think they would better handle the torque ... right or no ?
I heard about a guy who put a standard in front of an auto; That might be better strength-wise. I think he removed the torque converter completely ...? I don't know alot about slush boxes.
What do you guys think?
ummmmm, i disagree, if a swamp buggy on 60+" tires can do it, im sure w/e your building can take it......
or you can do dual cases like me..


 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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alright thanks quad for the enlightenment, i thought space would be a problem. But thats more what i saw it for. i guess it does make since in a swamp buggy.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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quadzjr, nice work!
Thanks for the input guys.
A little OT, but has anyone put a t.case in backwards for a fifth gear effect?
I've also got a 2wd f350 with an NP435 and if I put a divorced t.case in line backwards, I might get better mpg if I put it in low range, no? With a t.case with a 2:1 normal low range wouldn't that be like a 0.5:1 high range if I put it in backwards?
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PChiders
quadzjr, nice work!
Thanks for the input guys.
A little OT, but has anyone put a t.case in backwards for a fifth gear effect?
I've also got a 2wd f350 with an NP435 and if I put a divorced t.case in line backwards, I might get better mpg if I put it in low range, no? With a t.case with a 2:1 normal low range wouldn't that be like a 0.5:1 high range if I put it in backwards?
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yes, you can make a "overdrive" with a tcase, but i believe, dont quote me but you might run into some oiling issues or somthing like that....
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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You can't shift it on the fly though, so it seems kind of pointless. Be easier to put a different gear set in the rear.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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You can't shift it on the fly though, so it seems kind of pointless. Be easier to put a different gear set in the rear.
sure you can.....gears may not wont to though
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 04:44 PM
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Why not use a 2-speed rearend? I believe there are some good ones on f600's ... Also mid-70's Internationals, and the 1972 to 1977 Dodge Medium Duty Truck (D-400, 500, 600, 700, 800) ... Then there is the '40 Woody Wagon ...

There is also always http://www.gearvendors.com/f2wdt.html
 
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