SF3 vs X3
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SCT's website has both of them, but as fas as I can tell, they are exactly the same thing, except the SF3 is a "new product".................
http://www.sctflash.com/SF3.php
http://www.sctflash.com/X3.php
http://www.sctflash.com/SF3.php
http://www.sctflash.com/X3.php
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Unless I'm badly fooled, the SF3 is the new "screw-the-custom-tuner-version" that all the dealer/tuners are so thrilled with. Thanks SCT. 
They wouldn't get off their butts and work on the 6.0/6.4 tuning for working on the ricers and hemis. 
Then they have time to put out something that gives more adjustability to the end-user (still not near as much as the custom tuners can change) but cuts the custom tuning dealer (the ones who were/are) the "talents" out of the equation. 
Rumor has it that SCT is finally releasing some new tuning for the Fords but I'd personally check into the soon-to-be released Spartan flash tuning device that is currently stirring up the 6.4 world w/ 492hp/840lb-ft w/ stock intake and DPF delete exhaust (and that's just some early tunes!). Thats over a 90hp improvement over previous tunes available for the 6.4!
Better believe it will likely shake-up the 6.0 tuning-world as well.
STAY TUNED
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They wouldn't get off their butts and work on the 6.0/6.4 tuning for working on the ricers and hemis. Then they have time to put out something that gives more adjustability to the end-user (still not near as much as the custom tuners can change) but cuts the custom tuning dealer (the ones who were/are) the "talents" out of the equation. Rumor has it that SCT is finally releasing some new tuning for the Fords but I'd personally check into the soon-to-be released Spartan flash tuning device that is currently stirring up the 6.4 world w/ 492hp/840lb-ft w/ stock intake and DPF delete exhaust (and that's just some early tunes!). Thats over a 90hp improvement over previous tunes available for the 6.4!
Better believe it will likely shake-up the 6.0 tuning-world as well.
STAY TUNEDAmp
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Originally Posted by 20046.0PSDX
Better believe it will likely shake-up the 6.0 tuning-world as well.
STAY TUNEDAmp
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Originally Posted by 20046.0PSDX
Unless I'm badly fooled, the SF3 is the new "screw-the-custom-tuner-version" that all the dealer/tuners are so thrilled with. Thanks SCT. They wouldn't get off their butts and work on the 6.0/6.4 tuning for working on the ricers and hemis. Then they have time to put out something that gives more adjustability to the end-user (still not near as much as the custom tuners can change) but cuts the custom tuning dealer (the ones who were/are) the "talents" out of the equation.
Rumor has it that SCT is finally releasing some new tuning for the Fords but I'd personally check into the soon-to-be released Spartan flash tuning device that is currently stirring up the 6.4 world w/ 492hp/840lb-ft w/ stock intake and DPF delete exhaust (and that's just some early tunes!). Thats over a 90hp improvement over previous tunes available for the 6.4!
Better believe it will likely shake-up the 6.0 tuning-world as well. STAY TUNED
Amp
They wouldn't get off their butts and work on the 6.0/6.4 tuning for working on the ricers and hemis. Then they have time to put out something that gives more adjustability to the end-user (still not near as much as the custom tuners can change) but cuts the custom tuning dealer (the ones who were/are) the "talents" out of the equation. Rumor has it that SCT is finally releasing some new tuning for the Fords but I'd personally check into the soon-to-be released Spartan flash tuning device that is currently stirring up the 6.4 world w/ 492hp/840lb-ft w/ stock intake and DPF delete exhaust (and that's just some early tunes!). Thats over a 90hp improvement over previous tunes available for the 6.4!
Better believe it will likely shake-up the 6.0 tuning-world as well.
STAY TUNEDAmp
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Originally Posted by 20046.0PSDX
Better believe it will likely shake-up the 6.0 tuning-world as well.
STAY TUNEDAmp
So are u hinting that Matts new tuner may be available for our 6.0's as well as the 6.4's? Interesting
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So are u hinting that Matts new tuner may be available for our 6.0's as well as the 6.4's? Interesting
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Soon, very soon. He's got his motor built and ready to run 2 different cam profiles to fine-tune the shop 6.0 truck. The SCT isn't capable of running the dual HPOPs and big ol' injectors properly so the Spartan tuner is a must. Its being tweaked now. No real time frame though as he's working on my X along side Jason's X and his shop 6.0 with nearly identical motors (well except Jason's has every little piece you can get made from some exotic metal and some crazy one-of stuff $$$... yet to come 
) and now he's dealing w/ a flood of calls/emails/pm's about the 6.4 stuff... 
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) and now he's dealing w/ a flood of calls/emails/pm's about the 6.4 stuff... Stay Tuned
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To answer the original question before EVERYONE went south..
SF3 is a pre-programmed Tuner.. thats it..
X3 is a pre-programmed Tuner with Custom Tune Support...
You cannot upload Custom LL3 files from a programmer to the SF3, it's strictly for the "Dyno" proven tunes that SCT came up with.
SF3 is a pre-programmed Tuner.. thats it..
X3 is a pre-programmed Tuner with Custom Tune Support...
You cannot upload Custom LL3 files from a programmer to the SF3, it's strictly for the "Dyno" proven tunes that SCT came up with.
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Originally Posted by Storm
To answer the original question before EVERYONE went south..
SF3 is a pre-programmed Tuner.. thats it..
X3 is a pre-programmed Tuner with Custom Tune Support...
You cannot upload Custom LL3 files from a programmer to the SF3, it's strictly for the "Dyno" proven tunes that SCT came up with.
SF3 is a pre-programmed Tuner.. thats it..
X3 is a pre-programmed Tuner with Custom Tune Support...
You cannot upload Custom LL3 files from a programmer to the SF3, it's strictly for the "Dyno" proven tunes that SCT came up with.
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Sorry for not clarifying earlier but Storm has it covered.
SCT chose to package a device nearly identical to the XCal3 that was not "custom tunable" but instead came w/ a canned but "dyno proven" set of 3 tunes. Cuts the custom-tuning dealer, the foundation of SCT's custom tuning sales, out of the food chain. Sorry about any confusion.
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SCT chose to package a device nearly identical to the XCal3 that was not "custom tunable" but instead came w/ a canned but "dyno proven" set of 3 tunes. Cuts the custom-tuning dealer, the foundation of SCT's custom tuning sales, out of the food chain. Sorry about any confusion.
Stay Tuned
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Originally Posted by 20046.0PSDX
Sorry for not clarifying earlier but Storm has it covered.
SCT chose to package a device nearly identical to the XCal3 that was not "custom tunable" but instead came w/ a canned but "dyno proven" set of 3 tunes. Cuts the custom-tuning dealer, the foundation of SCT's custom tuning sales, out of the food chain. Sorry about any confusion.
Stay Tuned
Amp
SCT chose to package a device nearly identical to the XCal3 that was not "custom tunable" but instead came w/ a canned but "dyno proven" set of 3 tunes. Cuts the custom-tuning dealer, the foundation of SCT's custom tuning sales, out of the food chain. Sorry about any confusion.
Stay Tuned
Amp
Honestly I think its SCT's way of getting Automakers to allow and keep warranty by saying "here, look at these dyno statistics blah blah".. Sorta like Bully Dog did.. Theres quite a few Ford Dealers that will actually sell you a bully dog and keep your warranty regardless of what might get damaged. I think that is SCT's way of thinking.. Sorta.. Either way it does cut our opportunities for custom tuning. I know we don't carry them in the shop.