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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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lets see you live in the midwest and tune your carb on a hot 95* F day and have that same carbed engine run when it drops to -10* F without leaning out and destroying something. fuel injection adjusts air/fuel multiple times per second. Yes carbs don't mess up as much, but if you take care of your EFI vehicle, it won't mess up either. Alot of people that have extensive problems asked for them by not fixing the small ones when they popped up, which is why buying a used vehicle is always a gamble
 
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 09:44 PM
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Human nature, shunning that that they do not understand.

you aughta come here with your fuel injected truck and run it against my carbed truck and see who wins
 
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 12:12 AM
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lol im not anti efi its nice to have comand start efi lay in bed on -40 mornings and start my truck lol but its a pain in the he-haw wen not even the guys that work at the ford dealership can tell u whats wrong. $5000 dollar scaners cant pick up codes that arent there especally the cave man obd one systems. a skilled mechanic can make just as much power and fuel economy out of a carb job. shoot i dont even pump the gas on my original 74 ford to start it i just turn the key and when tune up time comes all i need is a $3 dollar screw driver. boath have there advantages one is just a pain in the neck when it dont work. but id still rather take my carb old school cool rules
 
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 12:14 AM
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lol i agree with t-bird come race your efi against my carbed hemi/deisel eater
 
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 05:05 AM
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boath have there advantages one is just a pain in the neck when it dont work.
Both could be a pain in the neck when they don't work. Even with the OBD-I EFI, at least there's some diagnostic capability to get pointed in the right direction if it doesn't spell out the exact problem. With a carburetor, the troubleshooting is only as good as the person working on it -- if you have the experience that's not a problem. Equally, the EFI requires some experience too, but the error codes give a step up to start with.

As far as racing EFI vs. carb, my truck doesn't have a prayer in a race with yours, but it's not because I have EFI and you have a carb. Horsepower is horsepower, whether it's made with EFI or a carburetor. Straight line performance might not be much different on identical engines, carbed vs. EFI, but if there's any significant lateral g-loading, I'll take EFI any day over the unmetered fuel spilling out of the boosters. Plus spark control is also a definite advantage for EFI.

I hope the mechanical diesel injection systems work better than the old VW mechanical gasoline injection CFI.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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no doubt if you're building power carb is immensely cheaper but you cant get just as much power if not more out of an EFI system(turbos and carbs dont tend to mix)
 
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Neptoess
no doubt if you're building power carb is immensely cheaper but you cant get just as much power if not more out of an EFI system(turbos and carbs dont tend to mix)

thats an outright lie right there.. there are even carbs for turbos, blow thru and suck thru carbs.. a carb has allot more RANGE then a single set of fuel injectors also.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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Gotta watch it here guys, got one that will slam ya for making a general observation/joke post.

Thought we where all adults here........
 
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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I'll stick to FI, mainly because it's here and pretty good at what it does. For about any daily driver me or my wife will have (and the kids in a couple of years) FI will be the fuel delivery system. There's not much point in teaching my kids carburetors or spending a bunch of time learning carburetion when anything I'm going to work on that needs to run is going to be fuel injected. Other than my lawnmower.

If I wanted to build an older project and keep it original that might be a different story, but I don't. Sure, it can be more expensive and there are some wires involved, but there's no way cars could achieve the horsepower, emissions standards, and fuel economy out of the same cubes they currently do with carburetion.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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Human nature, shunning that that they do not understand.


your saying that we don tliek EFI because we dont understand it? your completely wrong, ive worked on both systems and own both systems. your the one slamming people saying they are afraid of efi because they are dumb.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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your saying that we don tliek EFI because we dont understand it? your completely wrong, ive worked on both systems and own both systems. your the one slamming people saying they are afraid of efi because they are dumb.
No, what I did was post a joke to the discussion at hand, didn't slam anyone and had nothing to do with you.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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No, what I did was post a joke to the discussion at hand, didn't slam anyone and had nothing to do with you.

Oh my mistake, im sorry for not understanding. Context is lost on the internet.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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I can accept that, yes intent and context is very hard to follow seeing nothing but the words on the screen.
Was the reason for my ROFLAO guy I included with, posted as a response to my "joke" to aid in showing its intent, and nothing more.

Anyway was supposed to be a "Freudian" thing, if you knew me, the kinda guy I am, probably been easier to get the "joke".
 
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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yeah i took it as you were calling everyone *******es for putting a carb on their trucks as well did not realize you were only kidding lol sorry buddy
 
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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lol oooowe seems i started a touchy subject opps lol ':/
 
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