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Originally Posted by SpartanDieselTech
First off, as SaharaF350 said, the fuel savings offset any warranty risk for people who put a lot of mileage on their trucks. Over a couple years time it can more than pay for an engine, even out of pocket.
Secondly, proper tuning isn't detectable. Not trying to be a smartass or come across as arrogant, but we have spent hundreds of hours making sure that the service departments, field service engineers, and other personnel cannot determine the flash was ever present. Freeze frame, max values, flash logging, and ALL other "guilty" parameters are cleared and some values such as Time and Mileage since DTC's Cleared, Self Adaptive Data, and other parameters are emulated and falsified to ensure nothing suspicious appears. Once again, not trying to be hot-headed- but I don't care what anybody's opinions or "facts" on the matters are--- proper tuning for the 6.4 is not detectable
Secondly, proper tuning isn't detectable. Not trying to be a smartass or come across as arrogant, but we have spent hundreds of hours making sure that the service departments, field service engineers, and other personnel cannot determine the flash was ever present. Freeze frame, max values, flash logging, and ALL other "guilty" parameters are cleared and some values such as Time and Mileage since DTC's Cleared, Self Adaptive Data, and other parameters are emulated and falsified to ensure nothing suspicious appears. Once again, not trying to be hot-headed- but I don't care what anybody's opinions or "facts" on the matters are--- proper tuning for the 6.4 is not detectable
Ok Matt, if this is true, (and I have no reason to doubt you), I guess we should all do this. I wasn't trying to be argumentaive but this is the first I've heard that "proper tuning" of the 6.4 is undetectable. I did read a while ago you were working on something but apparently missed the "we got it post"! Or mis-understood what was going on. Sorry! Most of the comments seem lead us in the other direction. I also would like better milage but don't want to loose my warranty.
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02-25-2008, 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by SpartanDieselTech
First off, as SaharaF350 said, the fuel savings offset any warranty risk for people who put a lot of mileage on their trucks. Over a couple years time it can more than pay for an engine, even out of pocket.
Secondly, proper tuning isn't detectable. Not trying to be a smartass or come across as arrogant, but we have spent hundreds of hours making sure that the service departments, field service engineers, and other personnel cannot determine the flash was ever present. Freeze frame, max values, flash logging, and ALL other "guilty" parameters are cleared and some values such as Time and Mileage since DTC's Cleared, Self Adaptive Data, and other parameters are emulated and falsified to ensure nothing suspicious appears. Once again, not trying to be hot-headed- but I don't care what anybody's opinions or "facts" on the matters are--- proper tuning for the 6.4 is not detectable
Secondly, proper tuning isn't detectable. Not trying to be a smartass or come across as arrogant, but we have spent hundreds of hours making sure that the service departments, field service engineers, and other personnel cannot determine the flash was ever present. Freeze frame, max values, flash logging, and ALL other "guilty" parameters are cleared and some values such as Time and Mileage since DTC's Cleared, Self Adaptive Data, and other parameters are emulated and falsified to ensure nothing suspicious appears. Once again, not trying to be hot-headed- but I don't care what anybody's opinions or "facts" on the matters are--- proper tuning for the 6.4 is not detectable
#19
02-25-2008, 07:29 PM
Originally Posted by SouthTexasDiesel
Just curious, what do you mean by proper tuning? Are you talking about your custom tunes or all quality programmers such as SCT, superchips, ECT?
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Originally Posted by Bowstring
What is this regen mode thats talked about?
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02-26-2008, 08:13 PM
Originally Posted by gopedoligist
has anyone in CA deleted theres yet?? any issues with the law??
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02-26-2008, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wb6anp
I am pretty sure that any modifcation of a emission control I.E. Cat, is about a $10,000 fine her in Kalifornia if caught. My dealer told me I can do a cat back but do not touch the cat or the downpipe as it would void warranty and could cause a fine from the EPA.
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02-26-2008, 09:40 PM
California is talking about starting emissions (particulate) testing on new diesels, mine would be exempt as of the talk right now just the one with the dpf's and on. They are also pushing to out cat on piston aircraft, I would like to see a technician try to do a smog test with a spinning prop right near the exhaust. OUCH.
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#27
02-27-2008, 07:51 AM
Originally Posted by boulderbronco
You are absolutly right. I'm sure it's like that throughout the country. I have been reading alot of these posts about the DPF delete and tuners and was wondering why knowone seemed to concerned with the illegality of it. I am suprised that knowone has mentioned the fines until now. But at the same time when will the EPA ever be under our trucks.
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Want a reason to DPF delete? how about getting 7mpg during regen every 500 or so miles for a half hour and watching gobs of white smoke blowing out your tailpipe for a mile or two when the DPF is cold.
Always nice looking at guys in Tudra looking at my 50k truck and wondering why it's *broken*
Love it - just dont understand the environmental saving from spewing raw fuel out my tailpipe
OK done venting LOL - I love the truck however, my favorite
Always nice looking at guys in Tudra looking at my 50k truck and wondering why it's *broken*
Love it - just dont understand the environmental saving from spewing raw fuel out my tailpipe
OK done venting LOL - I love the truck however, my favorite
#29
02-29-2008, 04:18 PM
Originally Posted by SpartanDieselTech
First off, as SaharaF350 said, the fuel savings offset any warranty risk for people who put a lot of mileage on their trucks. Over a couple years time it can more than pay for an engine, even out of pocket.
Secondly, proper tuning isn't detectable. Not trying to be a smartass or come across as arrogant, but we have spent hundreds of hours making sure that the service departments, field service engineers, and other personnel cannot determine the flash was ever present. Freeze frame, max values, flash logging, and ALL other "guilty" parameters are cleared and some values such as Time and Mileage since DTC's Cleared, Self Adaptive Data, and other parameters are emulated and falsified to ensure nothing suspicious appears. Once again, not trying to be hot-headed- but I don't care what anybody's opinions or "facts" on the matters are--- proper tuning for the 6.4 is not detectable
Secondly, proper tuning isn't detectable. Not trying to be a smartass or come across as arrogant, but we have spent hundreds of hours making sure that the service departments, field service engineers, and other personnel cannot determine the flash was ever present. Freeze frame, max values, flash logging, and ALL other "guilty" parameters are cleared and some values such as Time and Mileage since DTC's Cleared, Self Adaptive Data, and other parameters are emulated and falsified to ensure nothing suspicious appears. Once again, not trying to be hot-headed- but I don't care what anybody's opinions or "facts" on the matters are--- proper tuning for the 6.4 is not detectable
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