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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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Lightbulb CAT why not?

Ok so I want to know/ranting
From what I have been hearing is that Ford is going to get rid of the PSD and move on to an inhouse motor, in 2010. What I want to know is why CAT or Ford hasent jumped in on the deal. I think it would be sweet to have a CAT C7 under the hood of a Super Duty. 7.2L It's a little bigger than the Cummins motor but I think it could work. Anyone else want to see a CAT in the 2010 Fords? That's just me saying I would LOVE to have a CAT in my Ford.

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Is it true that Dodge is going to drop the Cummins in 2010 for a Mercedes Diesel?
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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couple reasons I could think of
I don't think Cat wants to go through the EPA crap for light trucks
an inline six with ford short nose the enginewould be in the front seat
I don't think these trucks can stand another pound on the front axle


wouldn't surprise me to see mercedes engines in dodge,don't know when cummins contract runs out
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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I would love a big yellow motor in my SD! Isn't CAT already dealing with Tier 3 issues with their ACERT tech motors?

Not sure if there is a replacement for the SD PSD. I know they are developing a 4.4 V8 for F150 but not sure if the 6.7 Scorpion is gas or diesel.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47059

I found this.^^^
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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I belive the Cummins contract runs out in 2012.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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I should put a CAT 3208 NA in a Super Duty.



Just kidding guys, just kidding.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rbaker6336
an inline six with ford short nose the enginewould be in the front seat
I don't think these trucks can stand another pound on the front axle
I second that!! The c7 is huge compared to the PSD V8 design.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rbaker6336
I don't think Cat wants to go through the EPA crap for light trucks
Any truck the current 6.4 Powerstroke goes in is subject to the same emission standards that Caterpillar faces now for on highway engines.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 05:52 PM
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Cat has no interist in the light truck market. Seriously, after watching what International has been through with Ford, why would they?

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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Yeah! CAT C7 and extend the hood forward a foot!
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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Ford has no intention of using an inline six in the Super Duty, especially one that weighs 1400 pounds.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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I was told by a cat tech that toyota was in neg with cat, 2 use a motor in their trucks but deal fell through,ne truth to that.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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How much does a 7.3 weigh? Or a 6.0 weigh?
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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How much does a 7.3 weigh? Or a 6.0 weigh?
The 7.3 is about 930lbs dry and around 960lbs wet. The 6.0 is about the same.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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Well as others have said, weight and size would be the #1 reason. I know everyone here would love to see a c7 or a 3208, or a 3406, but in all seriousness, all 3 are junk compaired to a 3304 or 3306. (thinking 3304 for the 1/2 ton market) The 3300 series is also a ton easier to work on. Weight wise, and length wise the 3306 would go, however it is a tad underpowered for what everyone is wanting. It would however last for quite a few miles, and be a snap to work on.
 
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