Tea Kettle noise?
Before it started loosing water we had checked the degaus bottle, there were no signs of leaking anywhere.
You may want to have them check out the STC fitting on your HPOP while they are in there. Mine had to be done within a week of being outta the shop. Tell them that you get the odd warm no start and maybe they will fix it while they are in there.
Anyway that is not the biggest thing. they didnt fix my whine i told them about all they did was replace the egr cooler. Noise is still there and now a new freakin noise. At around 1800rpm about 30 mph in light throttle it sounds something like a weed whacker coming from the engine. i dont know what to do i wanna stranggle the dealer. Called them up want the tech to take a ride with me so told them that they want me to go down saturday morning and take a ride with the tech.
Also let me add this is the second time for same problem and both times i told them do a pressure test it might be the H.G. You guys think they did? Apsolutely not. Will tell them again maybe third time is a charm. I HOPE. Also noticed fingerprint all over the hood and a new scratch they must of added, have to yell at them for that. And let them know i noticed there are bubbles in the degasbottle when it is in high idle there are bubbles like someone is blowing into the bottle making bubbles. \
Anyone with suggestions??? Please???
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Also let me add this is the second time for same problem and both times i told them do a pressure test it might be the H.G. You guys think they did? Apsolutely not. Will tell them again maybe third time is a charm. I HOPE. And let them know i noticed there are bubbles in the degasbottle when it is in high idle there are bubbles like someone is blowing into the bottle making bubbles.
Anyone with suggestions??? Please???
I would print off the TSB and take it with you and throw it at them. The bubles in the degass is a bad thing for certian. Where the bubbles there before they replaced the EGR cooler or is this a new thing? If it is new anlong with the new noise, it is possible there was an issue with the EGR installation.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/tsb/full...php?tsb=06-3-8
Otherwise go to the TSB search page above and look up the tsb by entering the following. 06-3-8
that should bring up the TSB called COOLANT DEGAS BOTTLE OVERFLOW - 6.0L
This identifies all the tests that should be done to verify the reason for the excess pressure in the cooling system. I seems to me that the Tech that worked on your truck quit at test number 4.
Here are the guts of it anyway. Good luck.
Complete All Steps In Order As Outlined
- Check for cross contamination of engine oil into cooling system by inspecting the coolant condition in the degas bottle. If oil is present in coolant, perform the following repair:
- Replace the oil cooler, refer to Workshop Manual, Section 303-01C.
<TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=80>NOTE:</TD><TD>ON 2004 E-SERIES 6.0L BUILT BEFORE 05/29/2004, IF THE OIL COOLER IS REPLACED, ALSO REPLACE THE HEATER CORE INLET HOSE, THE REVISED HOSE CONTAINS AN INTERNAL FLOW RESTRICTOR (FIGURE 1). REFER TO TSB 05-2-5 FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Figure 1 - Article 06-3-8
- Clean cooling system with Motorcraft Premium Cooling System Flush (VC-1) following Workshop Manual procedure in Section 303-03, Flushing - Engine and Radiator.
<TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=80>NOTE:</TD><TD>IT MAY BE NECESSARY TO FURTHER REMOVE ALL COOLANT HOSES (RADIATOR, DEGAS, AND HEATER) AND CLEAN THEM SEPARATELY. OIL TENDS TO ADHERE TO THE RUBBER AND RESISTS NORMAL FLUSHING.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=80>NOTE:</TD><TD>IN EXTREME CASES, THE RADIATOR MAY NEED TO BE REMOVED AND CLEANED IN AN ULTRASONIC CLEANING TANK AT A LOCAL RADIATOR REPAIR FACILITY.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
- Replace the oil cooler, refer to Workshop Manual, Section 303-01C.
- Check for diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs). Then using WDS datalogger, access the following PIDs and road test the vehicle:
- Manifold Gauge Pressure (MGP)
- Barometric Pressure (BARO)
- Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR)
- Exhaust Pressure (EP)
- Mass Air Flow (MAF)
- Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP)
- Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT)
- Engine Oil Temperature (EOT)
- Verify that MGP, BARO, EGR, EP, MAF and MAP PIDs are within specification, and the EP PID value is within 1.5 psi (10.34 kPa) of the MAP and BARO PID values with key on engine off (KOEO). If PIDs are not within specification, or DTCs are retrieved, refer to PC/ED pinpoint tests. Repair any faults then proceed with the TSB.
<TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=80>NOTE:</TD><TD>OVER-BOOST CONDITIONS (HIGHER THAN SPECIFIED MGP) WILL RESULT IN EXCESSIVE CYLINDER PRESSURES, AND MAY BE CAUSED BY ONE (1) OF THE FOLLOWING: IRREGULAR RESPONSE IN VARIABLE GEOMETRY TURBO, BIASED EXHAUST PRESSURE SENSOR, AND/OR IRREGULAR EXHAUST GAS RECIRCULATION.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> - Verify that ECT and EOT PIDs are within specified ranges (see PC/ED Section 1: Description and Operation of ECT, EOT). EOT should be about 225° F (107° C) when the ECT is 200° F (93° C). If EOT IS NOT within 25° F (14° C) of ECT under normal operating conditions, replace the oil cooler. However, first perform all steps through Step 5 before replacing the oil cooler. Refer to Workshop Manual, Section 303-01C.
- Check for proper operation of the pressure cap and its seal to the degas bottle. Do not remove the pressure cap. As shown in Figure 2, install the pressure tester to one (1) of the two (2) small ports near the top of the bottle. Then isolate the degas bottle by securely pinching off (or plugging) the other intake deaeration (small) line, and the large hose at the bottom of the bottle between the bottle and the tee fitting. Pressurize the degas bottle by using slow and steady pushes on the tester pump handle (not quick jerking pushes). Pressurize the degas bottle until the gauge pressure levels off, typically between 12-18 psi (83-124 kPa).

Figure 2 - Article 06-3-8- Wait 30 seconds, if the gauge holds steady pressure, the pressure cap and degas bottle fill neck lip are good.
- If the gauge pressure drops, apply soapy water around the cap to find any leaks. Check the degas bottle fill neck lip for nicks. Small nicks can be removed by light sanding with fine emery cloth. Re-pressure test, if leaks are still present replace the pressure cap. Re-pressure test again, if leaks are still present replace the degas bottle, refer to Workshop Manual, Section 303-03.
- After verifying that the degas bottle and pressure cap are in good condition proceed to Step 4.
- EGR COOLER TEST: Install a pressure tester in-line with the degas bottle hose using Rotunda 014-R1068 adapter (Figure 3).

Figure 3 - Article 06-3-8- Pressurize the cooling system until the gauge pressure levels off.
- Inspect for external leaks especially in the heater core area. Replace the heater core if necessary, refer to Workshop Manual Section 412-02. Also replace the oil cooler at this point if necessary as outlined in Step 2. Refill the system and proceed to Step 4c.
<TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=80>NOTE:</TD><TD>ON 2004 E-SERIES 6.0L BUILT BEFORE 05/29/2004, IF THE HEATER CORE OR OIL COOLER ARE REPLACED, ALSO REPLACE THE HEATER CORE INLET HOSE, THE REVISED HOSE CONTAINS AN INTERNAL FLOW RESTRICTOR. REFER TO TSB 05-2-5 FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> - Raise rear of vehicle 2' (61 cm) so front of vehicle is angled down. Pressurize system with pressure tester and remove EGR valve, inspect for coolant in the intake manifold at EGR valve location. Maintain pressure for up to 15 minutes. An EGR cooler gross leak will produce coolant in the intake manifold almost immediately. It will take up to 15 minutes for coolant to be evident in the intake manifold for smallest EGR cooler leak. If coolant is present in intake replace the EGR cooler, refer to Workshop Manual, Section 303-08. (Normally when the EGR cooler has failed, there will be coolant in the exhaust.) Refill the system and proceed to Step 5.
<TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=80>NOTE:</TD><TD>REPLACE THE OIL COOLER AT THIS POINT IF NECESSARY AS OUTLINED IN STEP 2.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>
</TD><TD width=100>CAUTION:</TD><TD>COOLANT ENTERING ANY COMBUSTION CHAMBER MAY CAUSE A HYDRO LOCK CONDITION. EVACUATE INTAKE PASSAGES AND COMBUSTION CHAMBERS OF ALL LIQUIDS. REMOVE GLOW PLUGS (REFER TO WORKSHOP MANUAL, SECTION 303-07B) TO ASSIST IN VENTING LIQUID FROM COMBUSTION CHAMBERS, BEFORE ENGINE IS STARTED.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
- With the pressure tester still installed as outlined in Step 4, release cooling system pressure, leave tester in place. Seal pressure bleed. Drive the vehicle at WOT / high load / maximum boost, observe whether the cooling system pressure exceeds the holding pressure of 12-18 psi (83-124 kPa) noted in Step 3, and/or if coolant is venting through the degas bottle cap.
- If pressure is not greater than the holding pressure noted in Step 3, and no venting from the degas bottle occurs, perform Step 7 (if applicable) and return the vehicle to the customer.
- If cooling system pressure is greater than the holding pressure noted in Step 3, and/or the degas bottle cap vents, replace the head gaskets. Refer to Workshop Manual, Section 303-01C for head removal/installation and head flatness specification, check the surface of the heads for flatness and/or imperfections. Refer to Workshop Manual, Section 303-00 for the cylinder head flatness measuring procedures. Use the following revised head bolt torque sequence and specifications (Figure 4).

Figure 4 - Article 06-3-8
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