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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 10:58 AM
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Do you need to change the Harmonic Balancer on a 351m when you convert from a man trans to an auto trans? (C6).
 
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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 11:09 PM
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It's always a good idea to change it- especially if the rubber is cracked.

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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 06:15 AM
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I think that he means will it still be balanced. Good question. Anybody know if flywheel=flexplate?
 
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 06:47 AM
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 23-Oct-02 AT 07:48 AM (EST)]Yes I replaced it with a new one. But it was the same part # of the on that was on the eng. The orginal configuration had a man trans mission. I changed it out for an Auto (C6)
 
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Old Oct 23, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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It should be the same- I never heard of an engine having a different crank for man. and auto.

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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 08:17 AM
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Yes Thats what I thought. When I rebuilt the eng(see gallery)I put a new one on. But I have a vibration at low RPM at idle goes away around 1000.The eng only has 3hrs and maybe 10 Miles on it. My Cam is a Crane 272 grind I would not think that would do it. Thanks Art
 
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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 08:47 AM
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NO it wouldn't but did you get the right Flywheel for it .. it has a 28 oz. imbalance in it .....
 
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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 10:05 AM
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 24-Oct-02 AT 11:05 AM (EST)]Shazam.

Here is what I got. I installed a new flywheel, Jegs Part # 564-N93002 (internal balanced) The Harmonice balancer is also an internal balanced.


There is another part # 564-N93002x JEGs lists ( external Balanced 28 ounce)

PLease tell me I didn't mess up. I am assuming the if the Harmonic balancer is internal the fly wheel would be. I hope I am right! Thanks Art
 
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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 01:00 PM
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I hate to bring this up this late in the game but the machine shop should have recommended that you bring the flexplate, crankshaft and balancer in and have them balanced as a unit. IMO it's worth the extra $ to have it done even on a mild rebuild.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 01:30 PM
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Learning the hard way!! The eng is in truck/trans hooked up starts/runs/etc. OK Now how do I recover if I made a mistake?

Do I have a good set up? (or is all this in my mind)
Do I need to remove the C6 and change fly wheel?
Were can I get info to verify my set up?

The vibration is at idle and goes away as you increase rpm.

I need an expert to assist. Thanks Art

 
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What year is your motor?

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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 03:01 PM
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 24-Oct-02 AT 04:09 PM (EST)]The eng is a 1979 351m. This is what I did to it. I hope I didn't scrxx it up! Thanks Art

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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 03:09 PM
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"All 335-series engines are externally balanced with a 28 oz-in imbalance on the crankshaft (the same as 302 and 351W engines up to 1982)."
This is straight from Bubba's website.

For the sake of longevity, and to prevent a flywheel from biting your feet, you may want to replace the damper and flexplate.

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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 03:11 PM
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Unless you run a brass gear on the dist, I would recomend dumping the hv oil pump. I had one strand me after 20 miles, and it ate my cam (2x!!)
 
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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 11:48 PM
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Art,

I hate to confirm the bad news for you, but yes, you need to switch the flexplate. The Jeg's part #564-N93002X external balance looks like the right part.

You never said exactly which harmonic balancer you used (part number?), but if your engine had the correct balancer before, then it was for external balance.

 
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