35 ford wheels...widow makers
Marmon-Herrington Man
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Well, here's the real test. I've been swapping notes with Chuck, and it turns out that he has in hand a set of 22.5 x 5.25" Budds. Budd #66930 which dates them from around 1962. Somebody needs to grab them fast. I don't know what he wants for them, but it's got to be less than the medical bills you'd get with widow makers. He's at www.chuckstrucksllc.com. Stu
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Originally Posted by bobj49f2
Stu,
Did you happen to see this trailer on uPay?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/semi-...QQcmdZViewItem
Looks like it has the same wheels, 9, maybe 10 of them! No bids on it yet. If it were closer I'd bid on it.
Did you happen to see this trailer on uPay?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/semi-...QQcmdZViewItem
Looks like it has the same wheels, 9, maybe 10 of them! No bids on it yet. If it were closer I'd bid on it.
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This is the kind of thing I'd be most comfortable seeing before I committed money. That wheel on the left front looks like a lock ring clear enough, but the one on the back could be a RH-5°. And there's no way to know what's on the insides and other side. Of course, sometimes the only way you get ahead is to stick your neck out. So, I guess you spend your money and take your chances.
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ok guys i messed up he pic i posted is a set off of a 48 f6 they are on a resto that the guy passed away are u guys positive they are not widow makers????
what is the best way i can give the seller to check?
thanks in advance
what is the best way i can give the seller to check?
thanks in advance
Marmon-Herrington Man
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From: Central Illinois
Now I'm lost. You say that the white wheels are not the ones you're wanting to buy?
The white wheels are not Firestone RH-5°s, also called "widow makers". They are a lock ring wheel, but without seeing the ring profile there's no way to know which design style. This is a picture of a "widow maker". That raised band on the concave side is your identifying sign. Stu
The white wheels are not Firestone RH-5°s, also called "widow makers". They are a lock ring wheel, but without seeing the ring profile there's no way to know which design style. This is a picture of a "widow maker". That raised band on the concave side is your identifying sign. Stu
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Originally Posted by truckdog62563
This is the kind of thing I'd be most comfortable seeing before I committed money. That wheel on the left front looks like a lock ring clear enough, but the one on the back could be a RH-5°. And there's no way to know what's on the insides and other side. Of course, sometimes the only way you get ahead is to stick your neck out. So, I guess you spend your money and take your chances.
I totally agree, I don't like spending nickle without being sure,that's why I suggested to email the guy to verify it's a useful set of wheels. If they are it could be the deal of the decade.
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From: Mcafee, NJ
sorry for the confusion i actually got confused myself
i have a 2 leads right now
1.) the white set are currently on a 1948 ford f6 and the po was an older guy who passed away so the seller knows nothing about them i beleive he bought the truck for the cab only
2.) the set on the 1935 ford i dont have a pic of them
what would be a reasonable offer for the white set all six wheels have good tires???
i hope i have cleared up any and all confusion
i have a 2 leads right now
1.) the white set are currently on a 1948 ford f6 and the po was an older guy who passed away so the seller knows nothing about them i beleive he bought the truck for the cab only
2.) the set on the 1935 ford i dont have a pic of them
what would be a reasonable offer for the white set all six wheels have good tires???
i hope i have cleared up any and all confusion
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I've paid as little as $20 for a set of four, and I've paid as much as $100 each for two plus shipping. I really wanted those two. Mostly, wheels that I've found in yards I've tried to get for $25 each. If I felt I'd be ticked for passing one up, I've gone up to $50. If you buy from a dealer, you're buying his time too. Pulling these things and getting rid of the junk tires is worth having somebody do for you.
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Pictures? I assume you got confirmation of bolt pattern and assurances that they are in good shape. You sure got a good price. Was my guess correct that they are narrower than the wheels you're replacing? Being that old I can imagine they might be as narrow at 3.5" or 4". To me that'd be a good thing considering the truck will be a rod. Have a safe trip, and enjoy the warmth. Stu
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I might have just answered one of my own questions. Looking at an old parts listing of OEM Ford wheels I see that between '34 and '41 they used either 20" x 5" or 20" x 6" sizes. That's probably not any different than your stock F-6 wheels.
One other thing you might check with the seller on before hitting the road. OEM Ford wheels going back that far had the same 5 7/8" center bore as did the stock wheels on your truck. You might be wise, though, to verify that these "new" wheels have that too. My listings don't show that there were any other center bore diameters made in that bolt pattern, but I'd sure hate for you to find out otherwise.
One other thing you might check with the seller on before hitting the road. OEM Ford wheels going back that far had the same 5 7/8" center bore as did the stock wheels on your truck. You might be wise, though, to verify that these "new" wheels have that too. My listings don't show that there were any other center bore diameters made in that bolt pattern, but I'd sure hate for you to find out otherwise.
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stu - i beleive they are factory '35 wheels
i checked lug pattern and center bore
the tires on there now hold air they are just whooped
the size of the tire is 7.00 x20
im guessing they r 20 x 6 right ????
and i made sure they are lock ring style and the seller knows a llock ring when he sees on he is a over the road trucker
im very excited ive had alot o dead ends so far and im not letting this one get away
i checked lug pattern and center bore
the tires on there now hold air they are just whooped
the size of the tire is 7.00 x20
im guessing they r 20 x 6 right ????
and i made sure they are lock ring style and the seller knows a llock ring when he sees on he is a over the road trucker
im very excited ive had alot o dead ends so far and im not letting this one get away
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Sounds like you are good to go. The book says that you'd normally associate a 7.00 tire with either a 5.5" or 6" rim, but nothing says that somebody in the past 70+ years didn't put the wider tire on narrower 5" rims. Have a good trip. Stu