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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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Easiest way to pull my motor??

Well as some of you know I have a 91 F150 with a 302 thats knocking and I just bought a replacement motor and I was wondering whats the easiest way pull the old motor out, BTW this will be my first time ever doing a motor swap...Can I leave the tranny in place and pull the motor?? Should I drop the tranny first and then pull it?? Should I pull the motor and tranny as one???
 
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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I think pulling the motor by itself is less work, but to each his own. You still have to disconnect the exhaust and remove the rad and accessories, disconnect the electrical and fuel lines, and don't forget engine grounds and flywheel bolts. The belhousing bolts are a bit hard to reach, but once you have it all loose and hanging off the hoist it will wiggle loose from the tranny.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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I usually slide the tranny back and support it with a floor jack. Then pull the rad, all the accessories, fuel lines, vacuum lines, wires, etc. and have at it. On the back of the motor, attach the chain to the block with one of the tranny bolts. On the front, find something good to hook it to.

I would recommend pulling the dipstick tube before the motor.

You'll need an impact wrench to get the bolt off the balancer.

Hmm... there's more, but I can't remember right now. That will get you started.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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I usually slide the tranny back and support it with a floor jack. Then pull the rad, all the accessories, fuel lines, vacuum lines, wires, etc. and have at it. On the back of the motor, attach the chain to the block with one of the tranny bolts. On the front, find something good to hook it to.

I would recommend pulling the dipstick tube before the motor.

You'll need an impact wrench to get the bolt off the balancer.

Hmm... there's more, but I can't remember right now. That will get you started.
The balancer has to be pulled off before the motor is pulled??? and to Conanski What do mean by flywheel bolts, I cant get to those unless the motor is out
 
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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No, the balancer comes off later. But if you have a reman longblock, you will need to put it on the new motor.

You have a manual, so forget about what Paul said re: flywheel bolts.

Oh, unless you clutch is next to brand new, you should put a new kit in there as well. Have your flywheel ground and replace your slave cylinder with a Ford part.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 12:19 PM
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And the motor I got is complete from waterpump to flexplate and intake to oil pan...It has the mustang style intake but the intake is turned around backwards from a mustang a the plate doesnt say HO so Im guess it came out of a crown vic or a town car...And the the new motor has 2 o2 sensors and I think my truck just has 1 so I would just use the truck manifolds right?? And for things to swap over I guess I just need to swap the intake, oil pan, pickup tube, waterpump maybe??? Anything else Im forgetting?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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No, the balancer comes off later. But if you have a reman longblock, you will need to put it on the new motor.

You have a manual, so forget about what Paul said re: flywheel bolts.

Oh, unless you clutch is next to brand new, you should put a new kit in there as well. Have your flywheel ground and replace your slave cylinder with a Ford part.
i will add to get the throwout bearing.

i see your new motor has a flexplate so you will need to get pilot bearing also.

take many pics, label and bag everything.

use a box for all the bags.

use a torque wrench.

get a lot of liquid wrench or whatever.

buy a new pickup tube and oil pump.

use truck manifolds.

did i say label everything?

buy a complete gasket set for the engine at napa.

replace the valve cover gaskets when you have the covers off to clean/check everything.

drink massive amounts of beer at the end of everywork period.

have fun and you will be proud of your work when you get her done.

 

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i would pull the 5 speed out first and put it in after the engine is in.
 
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Originally Posted by andym
You have a manual, so forget about what Paul said re: flywheel bolts.
Yeah.. I was think torque converter when I wrote that...
 
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Originally Posted by quicklook2
i will add to get the throwout bearing.

i see your new motor has a flexplate so you will need to get pilot bearing also.

take many pics, label and bag everything.

use a box for all the bags.

use a torque wrench.

get a lot of liquid wrench or whatever.

buy a new pickup tube and oil pump.

use truck manifolds.

did i say label everything?

buy a complete gasket set for the engine at napa.

replace the valve cover gaskets when you have the covers off to clean/check everything.

drink massive amounts of beer at the end of everywork period.

have fun and you will be proud of your work when you get her done.

Thanks for all the replys everyone, this will help me alot...But am I going to need to use the truck water pump or is the car pump good??? And the longblock only has 80,000 miles and the outside of it is dry as a bone, so a gasket kit wont be necessary, I just need gaskets for the things Im changing
 
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Ah... your replacement is used. That changes things a bit them. You don't necessarily have to strip everything off the old motor then.

The throwout bearing will come with both the slave and the clutch kit. You will have a spare. It will also come with a pilot bearing. You will need a pilot bearing puller to get the old one out.

Unless you have a photographic memory, it's imperative that you bag and label every bolt, nut and washer like quicklook says. You will never get it back together right if you don't do this. A bag of ziplocks and a sharpie is required for this project.

Just buy a new water pump. It has to be for a truck. Wait, you said car - is this 302 out of a mustang?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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get the gasket set, it will be cheaper if you need anything else.

use a new truck water pump.

i recommend that you replace valve cover gaskets so you can look inside.

use everything you can off of truck engine.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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don't forget to detach the power steering return line. It's not that obvious
 
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i left out stuff like that because it should be obvious, so i will add, take off hood, remove radiator and wrap air cond. condensor with cardboard.

put plastic and cardboard under vehicle when removing because you will spill stuff regardless of how you try to drain stuff.
 
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Originally Posted by quicklook2
i will add to get the throwout bearing.

i see your new motor has a flexplate so you will need to get pilot bearing also.

take many pics, label and bag everything.

use a box for all the bags.

use a torque wrench.

get a lot of liquid wrench or whatever.

buy a new pickup tube and oil pump.

use truck manifolds.

did i say label everything?

buy a complete gasket set for the engine at napa.

replace the valve cover gaskets when you have the covers off to clean/check everything.

drink massive amounts of beer at the end of everywork period.

have fun and you will be proud of your work when you get her done.


The only thing I would add here is to take alot of good digital photos of before and during the dissasembly. Lableing is Very important but if you miss something it should be in the photos.
 
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