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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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Need advice!!

Well to start I have a 1999 F250 SuperDuty V10. I Don't know if I have the 4R100 or not. Well first off I don't drive my truck very often (I have a company car). About 4 weeks ago I had my transmission flused at my Ford Dealership by my office an hour from where I live. Well I started hearing some weird noises recently and at one point my truck wouldn't accelerate. At that point I called my mechanic and I did smell burned brakes in the rear and he found a bad caliper. So I replaced the rear calipers (thinking that was the problem) and replaced my ball joints (they were gone), I drove the car home and it started off great.

Well after 10 miles I felt like my trucks tranny was slipping. So I got home and checked my tranny fluid and there was almost nothing on the dip stick. I did check it with the truck on and warmed up. The only thing I had on the dip stick was a little drop on the end of the dip stick. So at this point I was just really pissed and I called the Ford Dealership. They said they want me to drive the truck in and let them look at it. The only problem is I live an hour from the dealership (I took it to the dealership near my work). I commute an hour to work and back in the company car. The dealership said to add a quart and drive it in.

Well I added the quart and now the truck is SLIPPING REALLY BAD. So what do I do? Drive it an hour and blow the tranny. Or have them let me take it across the street to my local dealership near my house.

Sorry my first post was so long, but I just don't want to get screwed. So what do I do at this point!

Thanks for any advice

Al
 
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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Sounds to me like the tranny is screwed anyway... sometimes a flush can actually be bad, if it hasn't been flushed regularly to begin with! I'd talk to the service manager again and voice your concerns...

This reminds me of something I just found out a couple days ago... my brother works at our local Ford dealer as a lube tech... he told me that when they do tranny flushes, they are instructed to put some kind of additive in there, because "a regular flush doesn't clean well enough". I was a little pissed upon hearing this, because I've had them do a couple of flushes, and I don't believe in using an additive in the trans unless there's already a problem. I'll be sure to firmly demand no additives next time.

Food for thought...
 
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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I would take it to the dealership that did the work. They need to see for themselves what is wrong. It could be they put in the wrong transmission fluid or something else that they did wrong. I take it you did not have any transmission problems before taking it in.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by swann79
Sounds to me like the tranny is screwed anyway... sometimes a flush can actually be bad, if it hasn't been flushed regularly to begin with! I'd talk to the service manager again and voice your concerns...

This reminds me of something I just found out a couple days ago... my brother works at our local Ford dealer as a lube tech... he told me that when they do tranny flushes, they are instructed to put some kind of additive in there, because "a regular flush doesn't clean well enough". I was a little pissed upon hearing this, because I've had them do a couple of flushes, and I don't believe in using an additive in the trans unless there's already a problem. I'll be sure to firmly demand no additives next time.

Food for thought...
Damn thats a good point. I'll be voicing my opinions tomorrow morning cause my truck is not going to make it an hour away from my house. I guess I should have got off my lazy *** and done the flush myself.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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I would take it to the dealership that did the work. They need to see for themselves what is wrong. It could be they put in the wrong transmission fluid or something else that they did wrong. I take it you did not have any transmission problems before taking it in.
Thats the funny thing I had zero problems prior to taking it in for the flush. However the problems did become evident till after about 500 miles.

Could low fluid levels have jacked up the tranny?
 
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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Could low fluid levels have jacked up the tranny?
That's a definite possibility!
 
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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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Well I just took the truck in this morning, and I am waiting to see what they say. The dealership allowed me to take to my Local Dealership cause the truck was slipping really bad yesterday. I mean I couldn't even go over 30 MPH.

The guy at the dealership (that worked on the truck) said "yeah just tell them to find out where the transmission is leaking. And have them call our manager." I just laughed cause I know the truck is not leaking tranny fluid. I even looked under the truck today and it is all dry under the truck. This just leads me to believe that they are going to try and screw me over.

When I took it in this morning the truck drove like nothing was wrong. Well thats with it not even being warmed up. When it gets warmed up is when it starts slipping. So now I'm just wondering what the hell to do or say.

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Old Feb 14, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Your truck was (as well as my 04') was designed to run on Mercon/Dextron 3 ATF. Says in the owners manual and my Haynes manual "DO NOT USE MERCON V ATF".

Now Ford switched everything over to Mercon V. I wonder if the dealer put Mercon V in, and that did anything.

I just find it weird you weren't supposed to use Mercon V for years now Ford says its ok.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Well I have an update. So I took the truck into the local dealership, and they said my fluid was burned out. So I asked what could have caused that? And he replied with 2 things. 1 was there wasn't enough fluid in the tranny to begin with. and 2 some part in the tranny just burned out which caused the tranny to burn the fluid.

BUT the good news is that there was no leak!!!

So what should I do if the dealership says they wont fix it or if they say they want me to pay for a portion of the cost? What to do, what to do. Help me out guys..

Thanks in advance,

Al
 
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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You go in for routine maintenance on your transmission they do not fill it all the way up with fluid and it is now burned up. I say have the dealer make it right on their dime.
The transmission was fine before you took it in so I would make it an issue with them. The other dealer is an independent authority and so they do not have any excuses for not making it right. Just my opinion.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 3000 FPS
You go in for routine maintenance on your transmission they do not fill it all the way up with fluid and it is now burned up. I say have the dealer make it right on their dime.
The transmission was fine before you took it in so I would make it an issue with them. The other dealer is an independent authority and so they do not have any excuses for not making it right. Just my opinion.
Thanks man I am going to try my best on Monday. I am keeping my fingers crossed for now.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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something else to check/replace is the tras by-pass tube!! i think the 04's still had it. check on the passanger side of the trans and there will be a by-pass tube between the lines coming out of the trans. this tube has been known to go bad, and cause the fluid to NOT be routed threw the cooler thus causing over heating of the trans fluid, and in some cases trans destruction!!

the tube acts as a quick warm up, and when it's working correctly it keeps the trans fluid from going to the cooler till it reaches normal operating temps. when it reaches it's temp the tube shuts and alows the fluid to be routed threw the cooler to maintain a constant temp.........WEAK LINK!!

BD Diesel makes a by-pass tube elimination kit that stops this issue from happening! i notice a pretty good difference when i put mine on. it takes a couple extra miles to get the trans up to temp, or a couple extra min in the drive way, but it eliminates the failure of the by-pass tube!!
 
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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Jason, you are a wealth of knowledge...
 
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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man i appreciate it, but i can't take the credit for that one. research and FTE is where that comes from! i read a post about the by-pass tube on a diesel site, and a couple time here on FTE (it's not commonly discussed). that was one of my first mods, and it was a good improvement for the $!!

i'm happy to pass it on!! maybe instead of a new trans, a fluid change and a by-pass elimination kit will be the fix. it's definitely the cheaper route!!
 
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 12:17 AM
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Yeah I hear ya... the combination of experience and information on this forum make me feel like I can do anything to my truck and still resurrect it from the ashes of a freak rollover accident...

Seriously though, I had no idea there even was a bypass. I haven't noticed it when crawling around under my truck. I never noticed it discussed here either... but then again, maybe I wasn't paying attention

That's what this forum is all about!
 
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