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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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I do agree with Up There about a D doing a better job holding up to off road abuse, but I don't normally go knocking around any rocky areas that would need it. I am trying to understand the problem with towing on a D tire. Most of the campers I have pulled only put somwhere between 5 to 20% percent on the tonque. Car haulers put almost 50 depending on where you park the car. Heavy equipment trailers, yeah, I would go no less then a E if I planned on doing that every day. I haven taken the debate from the screen to my own dark place.
I am lucky, I busted tires 20+ years ago. The guy I worked for still owns the tire shop.I am able to question him when I start looking for new. So far, I keep heading towards the D. I guess I would hit a old tire store, not a discount tire type place, and explain what it is "you" want to do with your truck. 315 75 16 toyo at's are what I ended up with.

Pat, in that picture of your truck pulling the trailer house. What load range tires are on the truck?
 
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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Those are D's. They r the Toyo Open Country A/T's 315/75/16
 
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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Ah ha, so you can tow with a D load range!

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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 09:40 AM
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[QUOTE=Texas Outlaw]Looking at those Parnelli Jones tires now. Nice but not offered in the 315s.

http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT-Tires/parnelli-jones-dirt-grip.htm[/QUOTE]
hey texas outlaw those pj's don't come in metric sizes but a 315x75x16 is the same size as a 35x12.50x16 i had them on my truck the only dif. is that its an actual 35" tire instead of 34.4 like my coursers r.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Ah ha, so you can tow with a D load range!

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You are Welcome, and good luck!!
 
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 10:07 AM
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I have towed my boat for years with load range D. If I had regular towing over 10,000 lbs, or EVERYDAY towing I would go with E rated. But for occasional towing, the D is up to the task! In my opinion I would say the ride is a bit better with D range, only because of the slight flex in the sidewall compared to the E's. Others might not agree...but that's where I stand. I only have experience with one E rated tire, it was the TrXus ST's in 315/75/16's E rated. Those tires are complete JUNK. Stay away! haha
 
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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Yeah, I don't like the TrXus tires just because I think they're ugly.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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Great thread Scott, Thanks for doing all the leg work for me.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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No problem Mark. I have been researching and shopping for tires all week. I've even had dreams about tires this week. Getting ready to make a run into town to see what kinds of tires are available locally for a good price. If I don't find any good deals I will order from Treadepot.com and have them shipped to where I work.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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pricematch with them! Most places will match or even BEAT internet prices to keep your business....at least ask!
 
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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I will do that. On the phone right now with a 4x4 shop on the other side of the lake from me. We'll see what they say.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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I run Pro Comp all terrain in a 315. They are D rated and I pushed them to the limit with no problems. Last summer when I was hauling hay I grossed out at 22,000 lbs. The pickup had 4k in the bed and the rest was the trailer and it handled extremely well. Just made sure the air was at maximum posted on the sidewall.

http://www.4wheelonline.com/Products...ProductId=1270
 
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 12:17 PM
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I have just shy of 100k, and 3 sets of D range tires. Two sets were 285s in Dueler A/T revos, rated at 3305# each (6610 per axle) and the current BFG A/T in 295s, with 3415# each (6830 per axle) My truck consistantly weighs 8700#, with almost 50/50 weight distribution. (within 200# IIRC) IMO what matters most, and Ive said this before, is the weight rating of the tire. Ive seen E range tires that were rated lower then D range tires, however its usually the reverse of that. I pull skid loaders, (one is about 6k, and the other about 9k) and our trailers weigh in between 2500-3k. And Ive also grossed 23k with said tires. I also run my tires at their max psi, for two reasons, thats were they are rated for max load, and its also were I get the best fuel mileage out of them. I would not put a tire rated for less then 3100 on our trucks. On my truck, loaded the way it is, that means I could potentially be putting approximately 1700# of more crap, or tongue weight on my truck, and the tires would be safe. (assuming the lower rating of 3100 per, and my trucks rear axle on a scale is approximately 4500#). According to my door sticker, my rear axle is rated for 6084 anyways. Tires exceed that at 3100 per (6200). The biggest thing is to look at the weight rating. The main reason for the 35s being a lower rating on a 16" rim, is probably sidewall height. If you want a 35, in a tougher tire, you would have to look into larger rims, to get sidewall height down.

BFG A/Ts come in a 285/65R20. They are an actual measurement of 34.7", 11.5 section width, and rated for 3860 E range, at 80 PSI If you really wanted HD Tires.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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I am going to go with the Toyo Open Country M/Ts. Four wheel drive shop on the west side of the lake quoted $1300 out the door. I stopped by Tire Max after helping a friend move and they guaranteed they can beat that price by a couple of hundred dollars and they are going to call me on Monday with the details. The Toyo M/Ts are load rated E with a weight rating of 3860#s. While out I also stopped at the local ford dealer in town and looked at a 2007 PSD that was on the used lot. 4" lift and Toyo M/Ts on it and it looked bad ***. The look of that truck is what pushed me to the Toyos along with the E load range.

Thanks to everyone that chimed in with advice. Y'all are better than anyone that works in the tire stores.

This will be it for a while as between the tires and my daughter's college expenses this week I am pretty much wiped out. I will just start working Saturdays and Sundays until summer and then be back flush with cash.
 

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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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I just did a pretend order for those exact tires with shipping on the site I mentioned earlier. $947.12......that is with shipping, you could have em mounted an balanced for a total of around $80 locally I bet! So.....what did they say about price matching?
 
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