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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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Alright, so, I purchased a '89 F-250. The engine is the 460. The tranny (5 speed) has a granny gear (extra low ratio first) and an external slave. Supposedly the clutch is new, but the clutch pedal is not right. It has about an inch or two of nothing before I get any resistance. The worst issue is that it isn't letting me fully disengage the clutch. Shifting it quite tricky. If I pump the pedal several times quickly, it seems to be a bit better for a moment or two. I don't see and leaks, but haven't been able to really look too hard cause of the weather. I am hoping that all it is is air in the line, and would be fixed with a bleeding. Any input? I have a F-150 with the M5OD that has lost all pedal and fear that is whats going to happen to this truck too.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Bleed the clutch from the nipple on the slave cylender on the trany. If this does not improve the travel, you need to look at a master or slave rebuild. When I did my brakes, I found that the cost of a rebuild master was only $10.00 more then the kit. Hope this helps.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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You also may want to look at the connecting rod from the pedal to the master cylinder to see if there is any adjustment in it. You should not have that much free play.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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I have the Haynes manual in front of me, but the adjustment procedure is quite confusing to me. I don't have much to any experience working on clutch systems. Do you (or anyone) know of a site with some good instructions? (pics preferred) I usually look up these things my self, but not knowing terms (again lack of knowledge) hinders that greatly.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Here is a Google search link that will give you some good pictures and instructions. Hope this helps.

http://www.google.com/search?q=bleed...x=&startPage=1
 
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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Alright, I climbed under the dash, and fiddled around. The slop in the pedal seems to happen before the clutch master cylinder push rod. Is that just the bushings for the pedal then?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 03:35 AM
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^^ Never mind that one ^^ i was thinking about it, and after completely ignoring all the terms my Haynes threw at me, managed to figure out what to do. Thanks for your help.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 05:00 AM
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In the name of all things holy, how the hell are ya supposed to get that "cross-lever" off the the bar!?!? I've been trying for the last hour and can't make any progress.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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Alright, case closed! After about 3 hours, a sore back, and plenty of swearing... It works perfectly! Thanks again for the guidance.
 
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same problem?

I might be experiencing the same problem; I don't get any response to pushing on the pedal until it's at the floor, and it's not disengaging the clutch all the way. I just replaced the master cylinder recently, and bled the system, but it didn't improve the situation. My pedals do move quite a bit; the brake pedal moves when I depress the clutch pedal. I'm not finding any information on clutch pedal adjustment - any hints or help on where to look?
Thanks a bunch guys!
 
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Old Feb 24, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mayo302
I might be experiencing the same problem; I don't get any response to pushing on the pedal until it's at the floor, and it's not disengaging the clutch all the way. I just replaced the master cylinder recently, and bled the system, but it didn't improve the situation. My pedals do move quite a bit; the brake pedal moves when I depress the clutch pedal. I'm not finding any information on clutch pedal adjustment - any hints or help on where to look?
Thanks a bunch guys!
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It sounds like your pedal mounts or bushings are toast. Crawl under the dash and have someone press the pedal down. Watch what happens. There should be no lateral movement. Just the rotation. I have no experience with Fords in this area but I have fixed many a fulcrum on older Dodges.

Look at everything closely as your helper works the pedal and let us know what moves.
 
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Phew! I got the wife to help me out on Saturday as it was a super nice weekend. Looked like the slave wasn't moving much, and I could hear "whooshing" noises in the line while she depressed and released the clutch. I bled it quite a bit, about 50 pumps of the pedal, and now it seems to be working great!
Thanks for the help!
Matt
 
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