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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by yosemitesamiam
Where at man? What am I looking for?
You can hook it to manifold vacuum, and see if your exhaust is plugged up. If you increase RPM and stabilize, the vacuum will begin to drop off if the exhaust is plugged up. If a plugged exhaust is what you suspect. Cheers..

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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tommyleea
You can hook it to manifold vacuum, and see if your exhaust is plugged up. If you increase RPM and stabilize, the vacuum will begin to drop off if the exhaust is plugged up. If a plugged exhaust is what you suspect. Cheers..

Tommy
Yeah, no clue what to expect man, but that sounds like the easiest way to check that part out. The other is getting my MAF cleaned up too. When I hit a hill driving, cruise control unplugged of course (darn recall), I cannot hold hill speed. I can usually barely keep 60mph uphill in a 75mph zone. Gotta almost bury the throttle...and when it downshifts, forget it...1/2 hour to get speed back up. May as well wait for the road to go back downhill, ya know? I just can't stomach the idea of $600 worth of parts. :\
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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If the cats are missing or gutted you will set a Post Cat DTC. Something like insufficient activity or low switch rate. The amplitude of the waveform the computer "sees" at the Pre Cat O2s has to be reduced after your exhaust goes through your cats(which in your case are no longer there) and are then monitored by the Post Cat O2s. If the wave form is NOT reduced by a big enough margin(threshold is preset in the PCM) the computer says your cats aren't doing their job and a DTC will go set. If you gut your cats or remove them altogether you must delete the Post Cat O2 DTCs or use O2 Simms which is an RC circuit which outputs a sinewave that oscillates from 350mV to 750mV and back again. It just keeps doing this over and over again and the PCM is "fooled" into thinking the cats are working properly even though they may have been replaced with a straight piece of tubing or even gutted with a plumbers snake. I don't know if O2 Simms are available for the Ford high performance market, but they have been around for the GenIII GM LS series for years.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by eallanboggs
If the cats are missing or gutted you will set a Post Cat DTC. Something like insufficient activity or low switch rate. The amplitude of the waveform the computer "sees" at the Pre Cat O2s has to be reduced after your exhaust goes through your cats(which in your case are no longer there) and are then monitored by the Post Cat O2s. If the wave form is NOT reduced by a big enough margin(threshold is preset in the PCM) the computer says your cats aren't doing their job and a DTC will go set. If you gut your cats or remove them altogether you must delete the Post Cat O2 DTCs or use O2 Simms which is an RC circuit which outputs a sinewave that oscillates from 350mV to 750mV and back again. It just keeps doing this over and over again and the PCM is "fooled" into thinking the cats are working properly even though they may have been replaced with a straight piece of tubing or even gutted with a plumbers snake. I don't know if O2 Simms are available for the Ford high performance market, but they have been around for the GenIII GM LS series for years.
I did the "hidden" O2 with my Dakota by strapping them to the frame outside the pipe. For some reason that tricked the PCM in that vehicle into thinking it was seeing cats doing their job. Hmmm...lots to consider here. I suppose the easiest thing to try first would be to pull them, and plug the bungs...see what happens and go from there. Thanks for the heads up man...saving this convo now for sure!

Sam
 
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