Got my buddy's truck running that was underwater, but there are some.... issues

There is vapor coming out of my buddy's dip stick when the engine is running.
-I'm thinking blow-by, but I do not want to tell him that until I am sure, since that is a real bummer.

His idle is real rough, and I already unpluged the EBP. Supports blow by theory I guess.

His engine willl randomly stall, I have no experience with this in diesels... I didn't think they could stall.

All his electric components in the cab fail to work except the overhead light, the headlights, his TAC, and the back lighting for the HVAC system. Everything else is dead. No fuses blown. (No wipers, no blower, no turn signals, no brake lights, no gauges except tac, no backlight for broken gauges, no cruise, nothing.

His 4x4 steering is very loose, you have to hold the wheel at a 45 deg to hold her straight, up until it decides to go the other way, then you have to hold it at a 45 deg in the opposite direction.

There is fluid accumulation in the valley of the engine block, smells like diesel, but seems watered down.

Other than that she survived a quick road trip well enough.

 

its bad..... All you can do is continue to chase down issues one at a time.

 

[QUOTE=iasrap]
-I'm thinking blow-by: Some is okay depends on the annount AND with other issues to work out, ONE STEP AT A TIME.....


His idle is real rough, and I already unpluged the EBP: Could be the Valve cover wiring - check each of the 4 connections - Unplug them one at a time while running and see what changes - if you unplug one and nothing or very little change, thers one culprit... May want to pull the V/C and visually inpesct them as well... (And if you do that you might want to pull the injectors and change the O - rings IMO)


His engine willl randomly stall: Just curious - Is this an AUTO Trans and if it is does it happen only in gear or in neutral as well?

All his electric components in the cab fail to work except the overhead light, the headlights, his TAC, and the back lighting for the HVAC system. Everything else is dead. No fuses blown. (No wipers, no blower, no turn signals, no brake lights, no gauges except tac, no backlight for broken gauges, no cruise, nothing. - Yikes.... Check all the fuses under the hood? I don't even know if there are any related to the cab there - just a WAG


His 4x4 steering is very loose, you have to hold the wheel at a 45 deg to hold her straight, up until it decides to go the other way, then you have to hold it at a 45 deg in the opposite direction: Steering box? - Loose or shot...



There is fluid accumulation in the valley of the engine block, smells like diesel, but seems watered down: Wouldn't be to worried, is the bulk of the accumulation right around the fuel pump? (i.e. not under the filter) - Watered down... Prolly isnt...

Baby Steps.... She will likely come out ok... But that one sounds like some work for a while... Been there ... Done that... (Well not so much in diesels either, but some) Gots lots of the T-Shirts

 

DUPE - IGNORE

 

His idle is real rough, and I already unpluged the EBP: Could be the Valve cover wiring - check each of the 4 connections - Unplug them one at a time while running and see what changes - if you unplug one and nothing or very little change, thers one culprit... May want to pull the V/C and visually inpesct them as well... (And if you do that you might want to pull the injectors and change the O - rings IMO)------Where do I get the O-rings?


His engine willl randomly stall: Just curious - Is this an AUTO Trans and if it is does it happen only in gear or in neutral as well?------It's an auto, does it in gear and in park.

All his electric components in the cab fail to work except the overhead light, the headlights, his TAC, and the back lighting for the HVAC system. Everything else is dead. No fuses blown. (No wipers, no blower, no turn signals, no brake lights, no gauges except tac, no backlight for broken gauges, no cruise, nothing. - Yikes.... Check all the fuses under the hood? I don't even know if there are any related to the cab there - just a WAG
-----I forgot about the ones under the hood!

His 4x4 steering is very loose, you have to hold the wheel at a 45 deg to hold her straight, up until it decides to go the other way, then you have to hold it at a 45 deg in the opposite direction: Steering box? - Loose or shot... ------ I forgot about something here: The vehicles bucks when you preak like it is going over bumps in the road, and it feels like it is coming from the passenger side front. Seems like ball joints to me. Can this affect the steering like this?



There is fluid accumulation in the valley of the engine block, smells like diesel, but seems watered down: Wouldn't be to worried, is the bulk of the accumulation right around the fuel pump? (i.e. not under the filter) - Watered down... Prolly isnt... ---------Yes, right around the fuel pump, in the rear of the valley, after four hours of driving it was an inch deep.

Baby Steps.... She will likely come out ok... But that one sounds like some work for a while... Been there ... Done that... (Well not so much in diesels either, but some) Gots lots of the T-Shirts

 

UM... NO!!!! This truck is in real bad shape, and I need your help and experience.

Thank you for your help so far.

 

He means duplicate post and that you should ignore the second posting, also when you hit quote do not delete the [quote] stuff at the beginning and end so that we can identify what you are saying as compared to what you are quoting, hang tight and continue to send info and we will continue to help you guys out.

 

there are several connectors going through the fire wall below the brake master cylinder, if you do not start getting information to dash I would begin by pulling and drying the plugs that go through the fire wall. Wet connections are bad, you want to avoid putting power to we connections as it will cause shorts. If you can get it in a garadge, or some place with heat that would help also. How long ago did all this happen.

Also when the truck dies, does it sounk like some one let out a clutch on a manual, or that it is starved for fuel?

 

Where do I get the O-rings?
I think NAPA carries them... You can order them from one of the DIESEL shops online and of course there is the dealer or likely international... Somebody here can say EXACTLY the best place to find them


His engine willl randomly stall:
It's an auto, does it in gear and in park:

K - I thought I remember about there being something tied to a sensor/switch On the Trans or TransAxle or Rear Diff, has issues a lot if guys power wash the uderside of the truck - OK boys help on this one!!!! I haven't personally dealt with the wet loose/sensor on the under-carriage to date.

Pulled the codes yet? -

And again you could (likely do) have one or more of the following culprits (at least)
1) Fuel pump / Banjo bolt and seals / Fuel lines (at the pump) are leaking BAD... Most likely the fuel pump is toast (60 - 80 bucks and 2 - 4 hours IF it's not a cali truck) Also Check your fuel presure at the shrader valve and see what it reads.. You prolly want a real fuel pressure gauge for this one as there will likely be some good fluctuation (again Fuel Pump/leaks)
2) Under valve cover wiring harness - check them as stated and see wazup
3) Hmmm could even be a bad fuse connection (#30 I believe) if it was wet you never know



I forgot about the ones under the hood!: Might get lucky here...

I forgot about something here: The vehicles bucks when you preak like it is going over bumps in the road, and it feels like it is coming from the passenger side front. Seems like ball joints to me. Can this affect the steering like this?:
Could be some of it, check your shackles, there is a pin/bump? that holds the springs in place, if this is worn or sheared off the springs can/will slip and cause the "buck" you are talking about... If so this HAS to be fixed can get a bit dangerous... and your good ol boys at the alignment/tire shops seem to overlook this one all the time.


Yes, right around the fuel pump, in the rear of the valley, after four hours of driving it was an inch deep:
As above: Fuel pump / Banjo bolt and seals / Fuel lines (at the pump) are leaking BAD... Most likely the fuel pump is toast (60 - 80 bucks and 2 - 4 hours IF it's not a cali truck)

Off the top of my head we have some starting places...

 

vapor??? do you mean exhaust smoke or steam vapor. if the engine was under water then there will be some residual water well, everywhere and that will take time to burn off. change the oil, if not done already. change the fuel filter. clean it up first real good, like three cans worth of that orange engine gunk stuff if you haven't already.

steering-get the wheels off the ground and start shaking it down and turning the wheel. use a buddy here to find the loose parts somewhere between the steering wheel and the steering knuckles. (tie rods and ends, gear, steering shaft where it goes into the gear and the steering shaft u-joint, ball joints)

with lots of electrical stuff out start at the source (batts) and work towards the affected parts. chances are, you will find a problem at power distribution or somewhere closer to the batteries on the circuit than at the non working components.

 

[QUOTE=skittlejr]

Uh, ya good point start at the basics!!! DUH like skittlejr said

could be fuel in the oil too depending on what is leaking where, OIL change, right NOW... oil pressure = HPOP -> supplies injectors the power to squirt...

 

IASRAP, I just meant my second post there was a DUPE not the thread itself...

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcdavidson
DUPE - IGNORE

 

Sorry about that, my noobness shows through on this forum.

 

NO Prob...

Were all noobs of some form or another...

GET THAT OIL CHANGED... if you haven't already that is...

 

Exactly how far under water did this truck go? We need to know to figure out what is filled with water. Give me a water line compared to body parts of the truck.