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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 10:39 PM
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crossmember hunting

Checked the old posts and posted in the drivetrain forum, but couldn't find a definate ansewer...

I noticed the crossmember on my dads f250 says M5OD 4x4. The transmission is a zf. Are these two crossmembers interchangable. I ask because I need to replace my zf crossmember, but can only find M5OD crossmembers. Thanks in advance!
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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Year? Model? Engine size?

You are speaking of the member that the ZF transmission mount bolts too, right?

It's called a transmission mount bracket.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 11:06 PM
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NumberDummy, I'm not sure if you are refering to the actual mount or the crossmember the mount and tranny bolt to. I am refering to the brace that runs from frame rail to frame rail. The truck is a '89 and has a small block in it. I know both the zf and mazda tranny will bolt up to the small block. I was wondering if the two were the same length and used the same crossmember, or whatever it is called. Sorry for confusing everyone.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:07 AM
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guns, yes the crossmembers are interchangeable. As far as I know, there isn't a ZF-specific crossmember, it is just the M5OD brace.

Found that out last year when I took out my AOD to put in a ZF.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:20 AM
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1988/ M5OD F Series & Bronco = E8TZ-6A023-D .. Rear Support (official Ford term).

This is the removable support that the tranny mounts to.

Civvies call these crossmembers, partsdummies call these by the Ford nomenclature.

Rear Support / Rear Engine Mount Support / Transmission Mount Support.

It never failed... ...when repair shops ordered what they thought were crossmembers, they really wanted these supports.
 

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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
1988/ M5OD F Series & Bronco = E8TZ-6A023-D .. Rear Support (official Ford term).

This is the removable support that the tranny mounts to.

Civvies call these crossmembers, partsdummies call these by the Ford nomenclature.

Rear Support / Rear Engine Mount Support / Transmission Mount Support.

It never failed...when repair shops ordered what they thought were crossmembers, they really wanted these supports.
This makes sense why would Ford stamp a different part for different trannies when a modified support piece would do the job.

Kinda like the empty transfercase in a two wheel drive Bronco II.

In my 2wd to 4wd Ranger thread, someone said I may need a 4x auto tranny and the transfer case that goes with it. I was hoping to get just the transfercase and maybe some kind of aftermarket adapter.
So the question is... are 2wd and 4wd tranny tail shafts different?
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:58 AM
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This makes sense why would Ford stamp a different part for different trannies when a modified support piece would do the job.

Kinda like the empty transfercase in a two wheel drive Bronco II.

In my 2wd to 4wd Ranger thread, someone said I may need a 4x auto tranny and the transfer case that goes with it. I was hoping to get just the transfercase and maybe some kind of aftermarket adapter.
So the question is... are 2wd and 4wd tranny tail shafts different?
I'll take a look....is the trans the A4LD? Or something else.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 02:10 AM
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I am not sure - Bill, it's a '99 Ranger (in my sig) 3.0 auto supercab.
I do not know what tranny exactly. Thanks.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 02:49 AM
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I don't know about yours, but I do know on the C6 of my dads and my old E4OD that the tailshafts were different between 2wd & 4wd, but sometimes its not that hard to swap them out.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by khadma
I am not sure - Bill, it's a '99 Ranger (in my sig) 3.0 auto supercab.
I do not know what tranny exactly. Thanks.
1999...Hmmm...can't help much...my parts catalogs only go thru 1991.

A4LD was used thru at least 1991, and the 2 and 4WD extension housings are different.
FWIW: 1984/91 B & R: E5TZ-7A039-B = 4WD / E5TZ-7A039-C = 2WD

I'll call a friend tomorrow (Tuesday), and verify.

Parts catalog ID: B = Bronco II / R = Ranger
 

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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 04:36 AM
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Wasn't the ZF referred to as M5OD-HD by Ford?
 
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