Hi
I hear that from 1978 on, the car 460s were different than the truck 460s. Is this so? and what are the differences? Would I be able to swap a late 80s Lincoln 460 into my 79 F100?
Thanks in advance

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 29-Dec-01 AT 11:54 AM (EST)]No difference in the blocks.. From 79 on the rotating assembly is externally balanced...As for a late 80's linclon 460, they don't exist. Ford hasn't put a 460 in a lincoln since 78 or 79...Maybe even sooner... I know the Lincoln Town Coupes of the late 70's had 400's. The last "FULL SIZE" town car I have seen with a 460 was a 1976. In the early 80's they went to the FI 302. If you want a 80's vintage 460, try the trucks....The mounts from a 80 up truck will not work in your 79.. You need to get the frame brackets, insulators and block bracket from a 73-79 F150-F350 truck...I junked the 390 in my 1972 F250 and put in a 1968 460 from a Lincoln... The mounts came from a 1974 F150 doner at the local yard.. You can get new rubber insulators from LMC truck.... If you get the mounts from a doner truck that STILL has the engine in it make sure you get the oil pan and dip stick too... A truck pan from 73-79 (2wd) has a six quart capacity and the drain plug is in the back.. If you use a passanger car pan you have to cut a hole in your crossmenber to drain the oil..

Metro2

 

Hi Metro2
Thanks for the info. The car I saw in the yard was marked 88 Lincoln and it had a 460 in (sticker on valve cover read 7.5l 460CID). Could this be a retro-fit. Anyway I understand that I would need a truck motor mounts and frame, truck passenger side exhaust manifold, and rear sump pan. I have a 351M so I know the C6 will bolt onto the 460.
Actually I have decided to postpone this adventure. The 351M is running nice and I will always find another 460 one day.
Cheers

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 29-Dec-01 AT 10:33 PM (EST)]Ah,You posted it here too.

Again,You will need a 429/460 Torque convertor to complete the swap.
Most of the car brackets also work.
Click my gallery icon and look at the LINK I have for the 429/460 truck swap, to get the lowdown.

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The 80-93 lincolns were the last of the big blocks in cars period.

 

I was just wondering if you can run that 68 460 on pump gas. Do you have any problems with detonation.

 

I meant 80-83 was the last of the big block cars

 

No, not that neither. 78 was the last year of the 460 in cars. In 79, only the 400 in Lincs. In 80 was 302 standard, 351w with the VV carb was opt., then from there on was only the 302. The 351w with VV went through 91 as a police option in LTD/Crown Vic.
460's lived on only in trucks.
The early 10.5:1 460's can run on 92,93 Octane without pinging, without retarding the spark.

 

i bought a truck 1978 F250 4x4 with a 460 conversion in it. I have ran into some problems and far as making the engine fit nicely.

if you decide to get headers, you will have to run them on the outside of the frame. I didn't have enough room to get my header inside. It does look meaner though!!!!!

Also, you might run into problems with the power steering pump rubbing against the steering box. I keep tearing belts, because of this problem, i need to find a way to fix this. Either move the power steering pump higher or move the steering box on the other side of frame.
Which side of the frame does the steering box go. (on drivers side) Inner or Outer??


Also, make sure you get all the accessory brackets. I am missing a alt braket, so i had to make shift one, until i can find one.



this is just i am running into with my motor.

mark

 

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You won't always need a truck pan to clear everything. I have a warmed up 460 in my 74 street truck, and it has the lincoln pan. Never had any trouble, even after getting airborne a few times. My truck doesn't have a "lift", just the heavy springs it came with. It does sit tall enough that I've had 36" monster Mudders on it.
Hooker makes a good header that fits good between the frame rails, about $350.00.
As for motor mounts, I make solid ones for all the trucks I've converted for guys. No, you don't get alot of vibration with solids, and you never have to worry about ripping them. Ford never put a 460 in a 4x4 during the '70's, and usually a 460 4x2 is hard to find in a wrecking yard, at least around this part of Ohio.
You make one plate that fits the engine and is big enough to cover the stock frame mounts, and one plate (thickness varies per situation) with a stud to locate in the mount. Bolt the engine plate on, put the other in the frame and lower the engine. Square and level everything, then tack weld the plates together. Raise the engine to remove the mount and finish welding it. Piece of cake! This type of mount has never failed in my 600+ hp. mud racing F250.