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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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I woudlint buy a cheap ram, unlesss i worked at a grocery store.

Not to worry! it'll back up that snow covered hill just as well as your F-150. The true test of a pickups worth by your standards
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Krochus
Not to worry! it'll back up that snow covered hill just as well as your F-150. The true test of a pickups worth by your standards
I don't know, that snow covered hill was actually pretty tough...I saw another video where some of those rock crawler type vehicles were trying to make it up it...5 slid off the side, 3 flipped, and one blew up the engine...

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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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Just because the engine line has been killed does not mean the name will die also.

Look for a "lengendary" Hemi V-6 in the future.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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Are we talking about cars only? Cause without a replacement engine for the trucks I don't see the HEMI being discontinued.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Krochus
Are we talking about cars only? Cause without a replacement engine for the trucks I don't see the HEMI being discontinued.
Strictly a rumor (or is it?) floating around Detroit...If Nissan gets a working agreement with Chrysler, the Ram will use the Titan 339 cid (5.6L) DOHC 32 Valve V8.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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No never said that proved a thing, jsut to see if I could do it. didint think id make it, thats werid why would they need a Nissan Motor, Dodge is a joke and should just be killed all together.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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Nah...don't kill them....we need something for laughs...besides Toyotas.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 93RangerXL4x2
No never said that proved a thing, jsut to see if I could do it. didint think id make it, thats werid why would they need a Nissan Motor, Dodge is a joke and should just be killed all together.

Run out there and do the job..But make sure you put it on youtube
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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Man how do I say this;

This is one of the most immature most un-informed thread’s I have seen on this site. Full of speculation which open’s up an opportunity to bash and poke fun. Funny how the negative Ford threads die the first day with people avoiding them like a plaque and when something negative happens to GM, Nissan, Toyota, or Dodge, man its fun time.

First of all, the Convertible PT Cruiser is being killed, not the PT Cruiser.

Second, I have not seen anywhere officially the Hemi has been deemed dead. I see where Chrysler is indicating "The Hemi is not the powertrain of the future," which I have to agree with that. However, it does not mean it is dead. If we are going to speculate we might as well say the V10 in the Viper is dead as well as any other V8 made by Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, Nissan or GM.

What I read on in the statement below and based on the fact that 45 percent of all of the Dodge and Chrysler sales are with a Hemi engine, the future powertrain focus will have to change. This does not mean Chrysler is going to kill the V8 Hemi it simply means they will change focus.

The future truck line will switch focus to diesel power. Possibly even in the car segement as since Europe already has a diesel powered Chrysler 300. The powertrain of the future for Chrysler is going to be the v-6 and v-8 diesels not the Hemi V-8. There is also going to be a move to Hybrid’s which Chrysler already is working on. Chrysler has already developed a hybrid transmission as well an automatically operated manual transmission that is clutchless and much more efficient than a conventional fluid coupled tranny

Quote from the article;
"The Hemi is not the powertrain of the future," Jim Press, Chrysler co-president, told Automotive News. "It's the powertrain of today."
End of Quote.......

One powertrain of the future could lie underneath the hood of the recently unveiled Dodge Zeo — a 268 horsepower electric motor capable of propelling the concept from 0-60 in less than 6 seconds. Dodge says the lithium-ions battery pack that powers the car can go 250 miles between charges.
Although the Dodge Zeo offers Hemi-like performance without the fuel consumption or emissions, its technology still puts it several years out. However, Chrysler's new line of fuel efficient Phoenix V6 engines will arrive in about a year. The new Phoenix range of engines will feature double-overhead-cams, an aluminum block, variable valve timing and cylinder deactivation. The new V6s should offer greater performance while reducing emissions and fuel consumption.
But Chrysler hasn't completely given up on the Hemi yet. The latest iteration will bow in the all-new 2009 Dodge Ram, which will feature the same displacement — 5.7L — but will see a 10% increase in horsepower — up to 380 — while reducing overall fuel consumption by 4%. The improvement were achieved through variable valve timing and cylinder deactivation.
Chrysler didn't shed any more light on the Hemi's future, but with the new CAFE standards taking effect in 2011, the Hemi's revival could be short lived.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Yes, Chrysler Corporation LLC, and I (along with many others I'm sure) am happy they've brought back the (now 3d) Pentastar. However, I wasn't aware that the badge referred to the number of cars in their lineup. Very interesting. I can think of four..Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth, DeSoto....?
#5 is Imperial. It was a separate division.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 92f150I6
#5 is Imperial. It was a separate division.
I said that in post # 43.

Depending on economic conditions and other factors, Imperial was a sometime separate division from 1931 thru 1948.
After 1948, Imperial became a separate division thru the 1970's.
 

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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Strictly a rumor (or is it?) floating around Detroit...If Nissan gets a working agreement with Chrysler, the Ram will use the Titan 339 cid (5.6L) DOHC 32 Valve V8.
Which would be a smart move. The Titan makes for more real world power and useable torque than the Hemi ever did.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
I said that in post # 43.

Depending on economic conditions and other factors, Imperial was a sometime separate division from 1931 thru 1948.
After 1948, Imperial became a separate division thru the 1970's.
My bad, I didn't see that. I didn't look within the quotes. Just got excited when I knew the answer. I really do love mopar.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
The Ram...Chrysler's been giving them away since 2006...discounts here of up to 15 grand off MSRP...the same basic ads have been running for over a year.
This is true, however I was implying that Rams are the best selling vehicle manufactured by Chrysler. I wasn't refering to sales figures directly. But you make a good point. We can't forget that Ford and GM's truck sales have been weathered as well, though. Both companies have halted the production lines at some point recently (Ford back in September).

Originally Posted by NumberDummy
It all has to do with the fact that Chrysler pulled the same stunt in 2006, they pulled in the late 1970's...This time around, they overproduced Rams, and sent them to dealers un-announced.
I wish somebody would send me a (paid for) new truck unannounced!!

On a side note...In response to parts of post #43..Just wanted to clear things up!

-I'm aware of the so-called "partnership" between Daimler and Chrysler. Everybody understood it to be a merger, but it was a complete takeover. I still firmly believe that Daimler ruined Chrysler. It's a third of its size! Hopefully they'll recover, but it's gonna take a loooong time.
-I recall you saying a while back that Ford is in worse shape than Chrysler. Do you still believe this? I noticed thetruthaboutcars.com also has death watch pages for Ford and GM as well, lol.
-As for Chrysler being more profitable, I meant that they would be as a whole corporation, not the brand itself (not sure if that's what you were getting at). The company has shrunk quite a bit, but the more I think about it, each brand has different assets. Chrysler would be cars, Dodge would be trucks/minivans, and Jeep would be everything it makes (except for that stupid Compass). So I can see how each brand would be valuable in its own terms, however I believe they'd be better off sticking together. To be honest, I wouldn't be bothered if Jeep left Chrysler, but if Chrysler and Dodge split, my spirits would be broken, because they've been together for so long. The two brands are a well-oiled machine, a team. For gosh sakes, they're MOPAR!!!
 
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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Which would be a smart move. The Titan makes for more real world power and useable torque than the Hemi ever did.
Do you own a Titan/Ram? Just curious.
 
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