a Chysler car towing anything? what do you mean you mean like a neon with a Hitch haha that would make my day.

 

In the 80's I had a Dodge Ram 3500 brand new..The dealer told me the truck would pull 14k on a trailer and that truck went through 3 trannys before 4000 miles on it never again have I bought a Dodge...

 

Theres your problem you believed something a dealer told you. I've never met an automoble salesperson who knew the first thing about cars. This becomes quite evident after asking anything close to a technical question.


If you had told a mechanic that you had planned on pulling 14K +trailer with a 3/4ton he would have asked you when you wanted to scedule next weeks transmission replacment. Heck you should have known yourself what that outcome would have been.

If I tried to pull a 5th wheel travel trailer with my Jeep I wouldn't blame anyone but myself when the clutch went out the next day.

 

They are selling them cheap for one MAJOR reason.

First Chrysler pulled the same stunt they pulled in the late 1970's.

Back then, they overproduced vehicles and sent them to the dealers un-announced.

In 2005 and early 2006, they overproduced Rams and sent them to the dealers un-announced.

In the 1970's, that led to the US Gov't bailing out Chrysler.

In 2005/2006, that led to some dealers cancelling thir franchise, and it also cost Chrysler 100's of 1000's of additional sales, because most of the dealers stopped ordering Rams, and other Chrysler products.

At one time, there were over 200,000 unsold 2005 & 2006 Rams stored all over Detroit...out in the weather, which, as anyone knows, meant many had to be refinished.

It took through midyear 2007 to get rid of them all, and now the dealers are loaded with leftover 2007's, and the 2008's are out.

Chrysler has shut down the Ram line several times, because most of the dealers aren't ordering 2008's.

Cerberus is now in charge, and in order to get rid of them, they are giving them away...but even with deep discounts, the dealers are still overstocked.

What all that has also led to, is sales of the competition's pickups are suffering.

GM is in the worst shape, with over a 120 day supply of new pickups stored all over Detroit.

So now GM has come up with the usual, tired old sales ploys to get rid of them.

More of the smoke and mirrors employee discount BS.

Ford and even Toyota are now offering deep discounts as is Nissan.

Since 1991, more ppl have bought pickups for pleasure than for any other reason.

Because of higher gas prices, ppl are now buying crossovers, other vehicles.

The bud is off the rose inre to pickup sales, which will prolly never reach the sales numbers of 2004 ever again.

 

This was a 1 ton truck and it should have hauled 14K no problem..Most car sales people are brain dead ..But the Dealer I deal with now and BIGKEN who is on here ..Is an honest salesman and knows his stuff and will not blow smoke up your canal..

By the way That Dodge was brand new and only had 9 miles on it when I bought it..The first 4000 miles on the truck is when the tranny let go 3 times..

 

Wow after reading this i now remmber driveing by the local dodge dealer and seeing about 45 or so brand new ram ..that don't look like they been move in a long time ...and they always have a sell just look in the paper real fast load trucks 14 grand off ...and right beside it 2000 dollars off new ford trucks

 

I can't see the Hemi being completely replaced by V6's. you will probably see the end of the RWD cars with the end of the hemi, because the V8 is why they sell. The trucks absolutely need the Hemi V8 right now as the 4.7 sucks. The trucks taht do sell have the hemi in them.

Someone stated that their 4 syl engine is an old outdated design, I guess that may true if you consider that it was completly new for 2006 and is shared by Hyundai, Mitsubishi and Chrysler, with dual variable valve timing.

 

I'm not sure why Detroit thinks fuel economy equates with FWD. I would love to see Ford (or GM) produce an afforable car in the vein of the BMW 3-series with a Cyclone V6 an optional 6-spd manual.

 

My sources say it is called Chrysler LLC, and that Cerberus Capital Management purchased 80.1% of Chrysler, leaving what is now called Daimler AG with 19.9%.

Are you saying that Cerberus bought Freightliner and Sterling trucks along with Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep? If so, that would be false. I can't really tell the way you worded it.

 

Are you saying that Daimler AG still owns Freightliner, Sterling, Detroit Detroit?

That's news to me.

My understanding is that Cerberus bought most of Daimler/Chrysler's share of the Chrysler division, which includes Jeep, Dodge, Freightliner, Sterling, Detroit Diesel (bought from GM).

Chrysler is now calling itself by the old, former name of the Chrysler Corporation and is using the same emblem, the Pentastar...which originally refered to the 5 lines of cars Chrysler once sold.

The article I read refering to a possible linkup with Renault/Nissan said that one of the reasons was to get more modern, fuel efficent engines.

Why Renault/Nissan would want to link up with Chrysler is beyond me.

Cerberus only bought the company to get Chrysler Financial.

So, I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see Chrysler broken up, with the brands going to the highest bidders.

Jeep would be the only model I would think, that would bring any real money.

Sources: Automotive News / thetruthaboutcars.com / AutoWeek.

 

Yes sir. Freightliner, Sterling (formerly Ford Heavy Trucks), Western Star, and Detroit Diesel are all fully owned by Daimler AG. They recently changed Freightliner LLC (name of parent truck operation in U.S.) to Daimler Trucks North America LLC, which covers all of the aforementioned brands. This angered many employees of the companies as well as the customers, and I can see why.

Chrysler was owned by Daimler. There was never any affiliation between Chrysler and Freightliner/Sterling/Western Star (except the frame on the Ram 4500/5500 trucks which was developed with Sterling as well as common ownership by Daimler.) It has always been Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep. So Cerberus did buy a majority share of Chrysler (80.1%), but it only included Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep. Daimler milked Chrysler dry.

Yes, Chrysler Corporation LLC, and I (along with many others I'm sure) am happy they've brought back the (now 3d) Pentastar. However, I wasn't aware that the badge referred to the number of cars in their lineup. Very interesting. I can think of four..Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth, DeSoto....?


According to allpar.com, Nissan may be supplying Dodge with a small car. I too have read/heard about potential joint ventures between the two automakers.

LOL, is that an anti-Nissan or anti-Chrysler statement?

So do you think they'd keep a stronghold on Chrysler Financial in the event of a sale?

I'm not seeing that one. Chrysler is far more profitable as a whole in my opinion. I think if that were the case Daimler would've broken the three brands apart prior to sale, or Daimler would have kept Jeep or Dodge per say.


Dodge does well with trucks and minivans, although I think the Wrangler is the second biggest seller that Chrysler has to offer, next to the Ram.

 

 

The Ram...Chrysler's been giving them away since 2006...discounts here of up to 15 grand off MSRP...the same basic ads have been running for over a year.

It all has to do with the fact that Chrysler pulled the same stunt in 2006, they pulled in the late 1970's...This time around, they overproduced Rams, and sent them to dealers un-announced.

 

BS. Every time i open the paper i see 9-11k off f-150's too.

 

I woudlint buy a cheap ram, unlesss i worked at a grocery store.